A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

can never control two or three centres, and yet centres are dependenton one another. Suppose we decide to control one centre and, meanwhile,other centres go on by themselves, then they will immediatelycorrupt the centre that we want to control, and bring it again tomechanical reaction. We will speak more about it later.M R . H . How can one attain this kind of will?MR. O. This was explained in relation to stop exercise. Those whoheard the lecture about stop exercise may remember it. This is at thebasis of stop exercise. It was explained, in relation to stop exercise, thatit can be done only if you put yourself under some other will, becauseyour own will cannot do that. Sometimes it may be necessary tocontrol four centres, and the maximum of your energy of will can onlycontrol one centre. So another will is necessary. This is why schooldiscipline is necessary, and school exercises.MR. H. Can we have them?MR. O. First it is necessary to know about it. It will be the subject ofthe first lecture in the new house, so just wait a little.MR. H. Is it never of any use to replace one bad identification of a longstanding by a lesser one as a means to try and break the first one?MR. O. No, this is self-deception. If it is identification, it will be thesame; one identification cannot be better or worse than another.MR. H. I thought it would take less energy and less time.MR. O. First you cannot control it or destroy it, so why replace onewith another? It is simply self-deception.***