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Educing Information: Interrogation - National Intelligence University

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encountered. Now, however, he does so, and rapport may be<br />

strained. Some interrogatees will take this change personally<br />

and tend to personalize the conflict. The interrogator should<br />

resist this tendency. If he succumbs to it, and becomes engaged<br />

in a battle of wits, he may not be able to accomplish the task at<br />

hand. The second temptation to avoid is the natural inclination<br />

to resort prematurely to ruses and coercive techniques in order<br />

to settle the matter then and there. The basic purpose of the<br />

reconnaissance is to determine the kind and degree of pressure<br />

that will be needed in the third stage. The interrogator should<br />

reserve his fire-power until he knows what he is up against. 72<br />

This passage suggests two very important guidelines for the interrogator. First,<br />

the approach to any source must be measured, systematic, and always outcomeoriented.<br />

What this means is that the interrogator should understand the phased<br />

nature of interrogation, that “victories” sought early can result in later “failures,”<br />

and that — and this is of critical importance — one’s ego should be checked at<br />

the door. The outcome-oriented approach facilitates a more reasoned, objective<br />

interrogation process, with the goal of obtaining actionable intelligence being<br />

primary. In contrast, how the source ultimately views the interrogator (e.g., as<br />

omnipotent, incompetent, clever, a genius, a dunce, etc.) is of little long-term<br />

importance.<br />

The second point refers back to the observations on the dual nature of<br />

interrogation. The interrogator must constantly manage the internal-external<br />

reference dynamic in a manner that best supports the approach(es) being<br />

employed. The interrogator is present, interacting with the source, and appears<br />

to respond (believably so) in appropriate ways to the unfolding events. At the<br />

same time, the interrogator checks his or her natural emotional responses (e.g.,<br />

sympathetic feelings for the source’s plight, anger at the source’s insults, etc.)<br />

and replaces them with fabricated responses — accompanied by nonverbal cues<br />

consistent with the response — that move the interrogation process toward the<br />

desired outcome.<br />

As noted earlier, SERE instructors are required to complete a psychological<br />

examination and interview prior to working directly with students in resistance<br />

role-play exercises. The objective is to screen out those who appear to present<br />

a significant potential for abusing their authority. Psychological screening for<br />

interrogators might incorporate a similar filtering mechanism that would, for<br />

example, attempt to screen out candidates who demonstrate low levels of selfcontrol.<br />

Although the now-famous Zimbardo experiment has shown that even<br />

apparently healthy, stable individuals can succumb to the authoritarian influence<br />

of power, this should not stand in the way of further research to identify<br />

personality traits, belief systems, and/or values that might enable an organization<br />

72<br />

KUBARK, 60.<br />

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