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Educing Information: Interrogation - National Intelligence University

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In general, direct physical brutality creates only resentment,<br />

hostility, and further defiance. 98<br />

As these passages from the KUBARK manual suggest, the very means by<br />

which coercive methods undermine the source’s resistance posture may also<br />

concomitantly degrade his ability to report the intelligence information they<br />

possess in a valid, comprehensive fashion. There would, then, appear to be a<br />

very fine line that the interrogator would need to walk deftly as he uses sufficient<br />

force to cause the source to yield to questioning, but not so much as to impede the<br />

source’s ability to answer those questions meaningfully.<br />

In examining this complex issue, it is important to keep clearly in mind that<br />

interrogations take place in real-world settings, without the controls available<br />

in the safety of the institutional research environment. Managing levels of<br />

internalized pressure experienced by a source subjected to coercive means is<br />

most definitely neither a science nor a precise art. The pressure interrogators and<br />

overseers would seek to measure is an elusive entity, one that can only be gauged<br />

by highly subjective standards. Levels of pressure introduced by coercive methods,<br />

as with torture in general, are often in the eye of the beholder as illustrated in the<br />

following passage from Phoenix and the Birds of Prey, an account of Operation<br />

Phoenix, conducted during the Vietnam War:<br />

Some people define torture as the infliction of severe physical pain<br />

on a defenseless person. I define torture as the infliction of any pain<br />

on a defenseless individual because deciding which activities inflict<br />

severe pain is an excessively complicated and imprecise business.<br />

(Original italics) 99<br />

The KUBARK manual offers unique and exceptional insights into the<br />

complex challenges of educing information from a resistant source through noncoercive<br />

means. While it addresses the use of coercive methods, it also describes<br />

how those methods may prove ultimately counterproductive. Although criticized<br />

for its discussion of coercion, the KUBARK manual does not portray coercive<br />

methods as a necessary — or even viable — means of effectively educing<br />

information.<br />

Shock of Capture: A Strategic Inflection Point in an <strong>Interrogation</strong><br />

The manner and timing of arrest can contribute<br />

substantially to the interrogator’s purposes. “What we<br />

aim to do is to ensure that the manner of arrest achieves,<br />

if possible, surprise, and the maximum amount of mental<br />

discomfort in order to catch the suspect off balance and<br />

to deprive him of the initiative.” 100<br />

98<br />

KUBARK, 90–91.<br />

99<br />

Mark Moyer, Phoenix and the Birds of Prey (Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 1997), 90.<br />

100<br />

KUBARK, 85.<br />

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