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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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SPARTA'S RIPOSTE 91<br />

Persian aid. But Lichas was surely one <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartans who soon<br />

negotiated a third treaty with <strong>the</strong> Persians in which even Sparta's<br />

strongest defender admits "<strong>the</strong> liberators have conceded Asia to <strong>the</strong><br />

King. " 9 ' When, after <strong>the</strong> negotiation <strong>of</strong> that treaty, <strong>the</strong> Milesians drove<br />

out a Persian garrison with <strong>the</strong> warm approval <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir Greek allies,<br />

Lichas was displeased and told <strong>the</strong>m that <strong>the</strong>y "and all <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r cities<br />

in <strong>the</strong> King's land should be slaves to him, in a moderate way."•' It<br />

was hardly, <strong>the</strong>refore, <strong>the</strong> love for Greek freedom that moved Lichas<br />

to speak as he did. Perhaps, in light <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> outcome <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> conference,<br />

it might be thought that <strong>the</strong> bold and provocative speech was meant<br />

to break <strong>of</strong>f <strong>the</strong> alliance with Persia and allow Sparta to pursue an<br />

independent policy in lonia. But Thucydides tells us that <strong>the</strong> subject<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> conference was not only revision <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> earlier agreements but<br />

also "how <strong>the</strong> rest <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> war might be fought to <strong>the</strong> greatest advantage<br />

<strong>of</strong> both sides," and after all, Lichas did conclude his remarks with a<br />

demand for <strong>the</strong> negotiation <strong>of</strong> a new treaty. 93<br />

Probably Lichas took a hard line with <strong>the</strong> intention <strong>of</strong> establishing<br />

a high base from which to negotiate a better treaty. <strong>The</strong> language <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> previous agreements, with <strong>the</strong>ir clear abandonment <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Greeks<br />

<strong>of</strong> Asia to <strong>the</strong> Persians, was embarrassing at <strong>the</strong> very least, and <strong>the</strong><br />

lack <strong>of</strong> a specific provision for Persian payment and support already<br />

had proved to be a serious problem. Lichas must have thought that<br />

his inexperienced and unimpressive predecessors had simply not been<br />

tough enough and that a hard line on l<strong>of</strong>ty moral grounds from a<br />

veteran statesman <strong>of</strong> high personal prestige would have better results.<br />

If those were his expectations, <strong>the</strong>y were quickly and rudely disappointed,<br />

for Tissaphemes was <strong>of</strong>fended and angered and walked out<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> meeting."' Without knowing it, Lichas had lent credibility to<br />

Alcibiades' advice that <strong>the</strong> Spartans could not be trusted as allies, for<br />

<strong>the</strong>y, unlike <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians, seemed wedded to <strong>the</strong> idea <strong>of</strong> liberating<br />

<strong>the</strong> Greeks under Persian rule. 95 In any case, it would be unwise for<br />

Tissaphernes to negotiate while <strong>the</strong> Spartans were in such a mood. It<br />

would be better to let <strong>the</strong>m stew, without <strong>the</strong> benefit <strong>of</strong> Persian sup-<br />

91<br />

8.58; Lcwis, Sparta and Persia, 107.<br />

928.84.5.<br />

91<br />

8·43-2; 43·4·<br />

94 8.43+ Some scholars have suggested that <strong>the</strong> satrap's reaction was feigned, but<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is no reason to think so. Tissaphernes was not accustomed to hearing such language<br />

from Spanan negotiators.<br />

9.i8.p.

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