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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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248 -THE FALL OF THE ATHENIAN EMPIRE<br />

ceived from Italy and Sicily had been much less than expected, and<br />

<strong>the</strong> revolution in Syracuse deprived <strong>the</strong>m <strong>of</strong> Hermocrates, <strong>the</strong> most<br />

fervent and ablest <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> allied generals, raising questions about <strong>the</strong><br />

quality <strong>of</strong> Syracusan support in <strong>the</strong> future. 5 <strong>The</strong> Spartans also appear<br />

to have lost enough men to <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians as prisoners to make <strong>the</strong>m<br />

eager for a peace that would allow <strong>the</strong>ir exchange and return. 6<br />

Under <strong>the</strong>se circumstances, <strong>the</strong> Spartans, in violation <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir treaty<br />

with Persia, decided to negotiate for peace with A<strong>the</strong>ns. 7 <strong>The</strong> chief <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> mission was Endius, who had been part <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> embassy that had<br />

failed to prevent <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian alliance with Argos in 420. As ephor<br />

for <strong>the</strong> year 413/12, he had collaborated with Alcibiades in persuading<br />

<strong>the</strong> Spartans to work with Tissaphernes in Ionia. 8 This, and his old<br />

family friendship with Alcibiades, may have been important recommendations<br />

for his role in <strong>the</strong> negotiations, but Alcibiades was in <strong>the</strong><br />

east, and o<strong>the</strong>r men would influence <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian decision. Perhaps<br />

he was chosen because he represented <strong>the</strong> Spartan faction favoring<br />

accommodation or perhaps because he was thought to be an expert in<br />

A<strong>the</strong>nian affairs. • Diodorus reports Endius' statement <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartan<br />

proposal as follows: "We wish to make peace with you, men <strong>of</strong> A<strong>the</strong>ns,<br />

and that each side should keep <strong>the</strong> cities it now controls but abandon<br />

<strong>the</strong> garrisons it holds in <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r's territory, ransoming prisoners, one<br />

A<strong>the</strong>nian for one Laconian. " 10<br />

<strong>The</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians, no doubt, would have been glad to abandon Pylos<br />

in exchange for peace and Decelea and to return prisoners, but to<br />

accept <strong>the</strong> status quo in <strong>the</strong> empire was a different matter. Even after<br />

Cyzicus <strong>the</strong> Spartans controlled Rhodes, Miletus, Ephesus, Chios,<br />

5<br />

8.2.3; Xen. 1.1.27-]I.<br />

6<br />

0n this occasion and again in 408/7 (Androtion, FGrH Ill, 324, Fr. 44) <strong>the</strong> Spartans<br />

came to A<strong>the</strong>ns with a request for <strong>the</strong> exchange <strong>of</strong> prisoners. Lewis (Sparta and Persia,<br />

126) says: "It looks as if <strong>the</strong> number <strong>of</strong> Spartiates in A<strong>the</strong>nian hands may once again<br />

have risen to <strong>the</strong> point where <strong>the</strong>re was strong internal pressure for an arrangement<br />

that would bring <strong>the</strong> boys home. As in <strong>the</strong> period from 425 to 42 1, this can have been<br />

a factor which dwarfed all more general considerations." That seems a stronger state~<br />

ment than <strong>the</strong> evidence warrants, but <strong>the</strong> desire to recover <strong>the</strong>ir men in A<strong>the</strong>nian hands<br />

clearly was an important concern <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartans.<br />

7<br />

Diod. 13.52·2; Nepos, Ale. s;Justin 5.4; Philochorus, FGrH Ill, p8, Fr. 139, 140.<br />

8<br />

5-44i 8.6.3 and 12.<br />

9<br />

Lewis, Sparta and Persia, 114, n. 44·<br />

10 Diod. 1 3· 52. 3· I agree with Lewis (Sparta and Persia, 1 14 and n. 46) that <strong>the</strong> speech<br />

<strong>of</strong> Endius reponed by Diodorus is unlikely to be au<strong>the</strong>ntic, but <strong>the</strong>re is no reason to<br />

doubt <strong>the</strong> accuracy <strong>of</strong> his account <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> peace terms. <strong>The</strong> narrative, as Lewis suggests,<br />

may well derive from <strong>the</strong> Hel/enica Oxyrbynchia, but I am less impressed by <strong>the</strong> similarity<br />

he sees between Diod.q.sJ.I and Hell. Oxy. 6.J.

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