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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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SPARTA'S RIPOSTE 97<br />

without Greek allies and with no adequate force to bring about a<br />

satisfactory end to <strong>the</strong> war and <strong>the</strong> recovery by Persia <strong>of</strong> its former<br />

complete control <strong>of</strong> Asia Minor. He had turned away from Sparta<br />

because he wanted to wear out both sides, and at <strong>the</strong> beginning <strong>of</strong><br />

winter, he had thought that <strong>the</strong> Spartans' numerical superiority at sea<br />

made <strong>the</strong>m <strong>the</strong> stronger power."' No doubt Lichas' harsh language<br />

and l<strong>of</strong>ty talk about liberation frightened him in <strong>the</strong> same direction,<br />

but <strong>the</strong> events <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> winter proved his calculations wrong. <strong>The</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians,<br />

though fewer than <strong>the</strong> enemy, ruled <strong>the</strong> sea unchallenged while<br />

<strong>the</strong> Spartan ships were beached.<br />

What Tissaphernes feared now was not Spartan victory but Spartan<br />

desperation. Since <strong>the</strong>ir renunciation <strong>of</strong> Persian aid, <strong>the</strong> Spartans had<br />

collected 32 talents from Rhodes. At <strong>the</strong> rate <strong>of</strong> 3 obols per man per<br />

day that would not maintain <strong>the</strong> crews <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Peloponnesian</strong> ships at<br />

Rhodes for a month, much less <strong>the</strong> eighty days that Thucydides tells<br />

us <strong>the</strong>y stayed <strong>the</strong>re . .., As <strong>the</strong>y ran out <strong>of</strong> money to sustain <strong>the</strong>m,<br />

Tissaphernes was afraid ei<strong>the</strong>r that <strong>the</strong> Spartans "would be compelled<br />

to fight a naval battle and lose, or that <strong>the</strong>ir ships would be emptied<br />

by desertions and <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians would attain <strong>the</strong>ir ends without his<br />

aid; but beyond that, what he feared most was that <strong>the</strong>y would ravage<br />

<strong>the</strong> mainland in search <strong>of</strong> subsistance.""' Perhaps Tissaphernes<br />

thought that his recent conversations with <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians, though abortive,<br />

would show that he was not permanently bound to <strong>the</strong> Spartans'<br />

cause and make <strong>the</strong>m more reasonable. " 4 In any case, he wanted <strong>the</strong><br />

Spartan fleet under his control at Miletus, where it could defend that<br />

strategically important port from A<strong>the</strong>nian attack and where he could<br />

keep a watchful eye on its activities.<br />

Thucydides tells us nothing <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartans' reasons for changing<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir attitude and policy, but <strong>the</strong>y are not hard to understand. <strong>The</strong><br />

Persian talks with <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians must have alarmed <strong>the</strong>m. <strong>The</strong>ir hopes<br />

<strong>of</strong> being able to support <strong>the</strong>ir fleet without Persian funds had proved<br />

to be illusory. Worst <strong>of</strong> all, <strong>the</strong> events <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> winter had shown that<br />

<strong>the</strong>y could not hope to defeat <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians at sea without a great deal<br />

<strong>of</strong> help from <strong>the</strong> Persians. Money was needed immediately, but <strong>the</strong><br />

behavior <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartan leaders both before and after <strong>the</strong> conclusion<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> third agreement with Persia suggests that <strong>the</strong>y counted on <strong>the</strong><br />

1118.52.<br />

111<br />

8-44-4; HCT V, 92, 137.<br />

IJJ8.57.1.<br />

114 Such is <strong>the</strong> suggestion <strong>of</strong> Lewis, Sparta and Persia, 102.

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