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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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CYRUS, LYSANDER, AND THE FALL OF ALCJBIADES 307<br />

be too readily projecting into an earlier time tbings that would happen<br />

only later, we need not doubt that Lysander began to build a personal<br />

clientele among <strong>the</strong>se ambitious Ionian enemies <strong>of</strong> democracy. But <strong>the</strong><br />

Spartans had renounced all claim to <strong>the</strong> Greek cities <strong>of</strong> Asia in tbeir<br />

treaties, and it is not clear how or if Lysander meant to keep his<br />

promises. 60 What is important, however, is that <strong>the</strong> men he appealed<br />

to believed him and became entbusiastic about his cause. He could<br />

count on <strong>the</strong>m to support Sparta and, even more fervendy, himself.<br />

It did not take long for <strong>the</strong> news <strong>of</strong> tbe meeting at Sardis and its<br />

consequences to reach tbe A<strong>the</strong>nians. When <strong>the</strong>y heard that Cyrus<br />

had arrived witb lots <strong>of</strong> money and orders to support <strong>the</strong> Spartans<br />

vigorously and that he had agreed to raise <strong>the</strong> wages <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartan<br />

rowers, <strong>the</strong>y were discouraged. <strong>The</strong>y decided to send ambassadors to<br />

discuss <strong>the</strong> situation with Cyrus, using Tissaphernes as an intermediary.<br />

61 It has been suggested that <strong>the</strong> idea was inspired by Alcibiades,<br />

who was characteristically employing diplomatic means before resorting<br />

to war!' Since Alcibiades was at <strong>the</strong> height <strong>of</strong> his power, it seems<br />

unlikely that <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians would have taken any diplomatic action<br />

at tbat time without his agreement. His recent ill treatment by <strong>the</strong><br />

former satrap notwithstanding, Alcibiades was sufficiendy dedicated<br />

to realpolitik to make use <strong>of</strong> Tissaphernes if he could be helpful, and<br />

<strong>the</strong> former satrap could be counted on to pursue his own interests,<br />

whatever he might think about Alcibiades. Still, whoever recommended<br />

this approach revealed a serious ignorance <strong>of</strong> Persian politics.<br />

Although it may have suited <strong>the</strong>ir purposes to conceal <strong>the</strong> fact, Cyrus<br />

and Tissaphernes were deadly enemies, and <strong>the</strong> former satrap at Sardis<br />

was not <strong>the</strong> man to persuade <strong>the</strong> prince to change his policy. Tissaphernes,<br />

none<strong>the</strong>less, tried to introduce <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian ambassadors and<br />

urged Cyrus to adopt <strong>the</strong> old policy: to prevent any Greek state from<br />

winning, <strong>the</strong>reby allowing <strong>the</strong>m all to wear <strong>the</strong>mselves out. Cyrus<br />

ignored Tissaphernes' advice, perhaps pleased to have a chance to do<br />

so and <strong>the</strong>reby display his independence and <strong>the</strong> impotence <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

former satrap; he refused to see <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians. <strong>The</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians' attempts<br />

to end <strong>the</strong> war by diplomacy had failed botb witb Darius and<br />

with Cyrus. Only fighting could now bring peace.<br />

<strong>The</strong> main target <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian expedition was Lysander's fleet at<br />

60<br />

For an interesting discussion, see Lotze, Lysamler, IB-19.<br />

61<br />

Xen. 1.5.8.<br />

62 M. Amit, Grazer Beitriige Ill (1975), 7· Cf. Lewis, Sparta and Persia, Iji, n. 134.

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