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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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42 THE FALL OF THE ATHENIAN EMPIRE<br />

mention that his own position <strong>of</strong> honor and influence would likewise<br />

gain from such an achievement. That would be motive enough for<br />

Alcibiades to press his case, but an even stronger motive seems to have<br />

impelled him. Thucydides explains his actions with this observation:<br />

"for he happened himself to be at odds with Agis. " 60 That simple and<br />

chaste remark almost certainly refers to a great scandal at Sparta that<br />

became notorious in antiquity. In a quarrel over <strong>the</strong> succession to <strong>the</strong><br />

Spartan throne early in <strong>the</strong> fourth century, Agesilaus accused his rival<br />

<strong>of</strong> being illegitimate, <strong>of</strong>fering as evidence a reference to an occasion<br />

when an earthquake drove an unnamed adulterer from <strong>the</strong> chamber<br />

<strong>of</strong> Timaea, Agis' wife, into public view. Plutarch provides <strong>the</strong> name<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> adulterer: Alcibiades. 61 It is reasonable to identify this earthquake<br />

with <strong>the</strong> one mentioned by Thucydides in late February <strong>of</strong> 412.<br />

By July <strong>the</strong> news would certainly have reached Agis and caused his<br />

displeasure with Alcibiades. It was only a matter <strong>of</strong> time now before<br />

Agis would move against him. Alcibiades' best hopes lay in bringing<br />

<strong>of</strong>f so great an achievement as to make him invulnerable even to <strong>the</strong><br />

hostility <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartan king. Failing that, his only salvation lay in<br />

escape to <strong>the</strong> last possible refuge, <strong>the</strong> Persian <strong>Empire</strong>. <strong>The</strong> expedition<br />

to Ionia <strong>of</strong>fered both possibilities. From <strong>the</strong> Spartan point <strong>of</strong> view,<br />

Alcibiades' proposal was doubly attractive. With little risk or expense<br />

to Sparta, Alcibiades might achieve what he promised. If not, <strong>the</strong><br />

Spartans would be rid <strong>of</strong> an increasingly troublesome visitor. 62<br />

is contest, from which comes <strong>the</strong> secondary sense <strong>of</strong> a prize for winning a contest, and<br />

by extension it comes to mean an achievement or exploit. If Alcibiades used <strong>the</strong>se<br />

words, <strong>the</strong>y reveal ei<strong>the</strong>r his own aristocratic, self-centered attitude toward <strong>the</strong> goals<br />

<strong>of</strong> war; his belief that <strong>the</strong>y would appeal to such an attitude in <strong>the</strong> Spartan Endius; or<br />

both. If <strong>the</strong> words were invented by Thucydides, <strong>the</strong>y may reveal his understanding<br />

<strong>of</strong> Alcibiades' character.<br />

60<br />

8.!2.2.<br />

61<br />

Xen. 3·3·1-2; Plut. Ale. 23.7; Ages. 3.1-2. One <strong>of</strong>Plutarch's sources was Duris <strong>of</strong><br />

Samos, a writer <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> late fourth and early third century, who claimed descent from<br />

Alcibiades. Ano<strong>the</strong>r may have been <strong>The</strong>opompus <strong>of</strong> Chios, who was born about 378<br />

B.C. (Andrewes, HCT V, 26.) Both <strong>the</strong> bastardy <strong>of</strong> Leotychidas, Timaea's son, and<br />

<strong>the</strong> paternity <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades have been challenged by M. Luria (Klio XXI [1927], 404-<br />

419). His arguments are answered by J. Hatzfeld (REA XXV [1933], 387-395; and<br />

Alcibiade, 217-2 19). Andrewes (HCT V, 26) points out <strong>the</strong> chronological difficulties in<br />

believing Leotychidas to be <strong>the</strong> son <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades, concluding that "none <strong>of</strong> this is quite<br />

impossible, but cumulatively it is not very probable." That is a reasonable conclusion,<br />

but even if <strong>the</strong> fact <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades' paternity is denied, we need not doubt <strong>the</strong> adultery<br />

or <strong>the</strong> reality <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> rumors that existed and were widely believed in Sparta. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

would be enough to account for Thucydides' description <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades as Agis' "personal<br />

enemy," EXIlpoo; (8.4p).<br />

62 Hatzfeld, Alcibiade, 220.

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