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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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THE REVOLUTIONARY MOVEMENT<br />

I I I<br />

on public services, including payments <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> special war taxes, and<br />

service as trierarch." In ano<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> speaker recounts his expenditures<br />

for <strong>the</strong> years 411/10 to 404J'3, a total <strong>of</strong> almost 10 talents. His list<br />

provides us with evidence <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> variety <strong>of</strong> public obligations imposed<br />

upon A<strong>the</strong>ns' wealthier citizens: he produced tragic and comic dramas;<br />

paid for choral competitions, dancers, athletic contests, and trireme<br />

races; equipped six triremes for battle in seven years; and during that<br />

time twice contributed his share <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> eisphora. 19 To be sure, he boasts<br />

that he spent four times what was legally required, so <strong>the</strong> less generous<br />

men <strong>of</strong> his class might have had to spend no more than 2.5 talents<br />

during <strong>the</strong> same period, but even that was a very high sum. We must<br />

remember that a talent consisted <strong>of</strong> 6,ooo drachmas, that a drachma<br />

was a very good day's pay in <strong>the</strong> late fifth century, and that in those<br />

years an A<strong>the</strong>nian citizen rowing in <strong>the</strong> fleet was expected to get by<br />

on half that amount. Ano<strong>the</strong>r way <strong>of</strong> understanding <strong>the</strong> meaning <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong>se sums is to note that Nicias, one <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> richest men in A<strong>the</strong>ns,<br />

was expected to leave an estate <strong>of</strong> no more than 100 talents and that<br />

his son, not a notorious wastrel, left no more than 14 talents to his<br />

heir. <strong>The</strong>re is good reason to think that <strong>the</strong> fortunes <strong>of</strong> many A<strong>the</strong>nian<br />

families were seriously reduced by public services during <strong>the</strong> <strong>Peloponnesian</strong><br />

<strong>War</strong>.'" By 411, and especially in <strong>the</strong> years since <strong>the</strong> Sicilian<br />

disaster, <strong>the</strong> unprecedented expense would already have been strongly<br />

felt, and it would not take much imagination for <strong>the</strong> propertied classes<br />

to see that <strong>the</strong>re would be similar and even greater demands in <strong>the</strong><br />

future.<br />

<strong>The</strong> moral standing <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> democratic regime, <strong>the</strong> alleged foolishness<br />

<strong>of</strong> its policies and incompetence <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir execution, <strong>the</strong> decline in <strong>the</strong><br />

quality <strong>of</strong> leadership, and <strong>the</strong> heavy burden <strong>of</strong> public financial obligations<br />

were all problems <strong>of</strong> long standing for those A<strong>the</strong>nians skeptical<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> democracy, although all <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>m were intensified in <strong>the</strong> years<br />

after Sicily. <strong>The</strong> new element in 411 was <strong>the</strong> dismal prospect for<br />

success or even survival in <strong>the</strong> war against <strong>the</strong> <strong>Peloponnesian</strong>s. <strong>The</strong><br />

dismay after <strong>the</strong> Sicilian disaster had quickly given way to determination<br />

and action. <strong>The</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian response to rebellion in <strong>the</strong> empire<br />

uLys. 19.42-43· <strong>The</strong> speech is dated to about JSS/87, at <strong>the</strong> end <strong>of</strong><strong>the</strong> Corinthian<br />

<strong>War</strong>, and so <strong>the</strong> total must include a good deal spent after <strong>the</strong> <strong>Peloponnesian</strong> <strong>War</strong>.<br />

One expenditure mentioned, however, is for <strong>the</strong> Sicilian expedition from 415 to 413,<br />

so some considerable portion must have been spent during <strong>the</strong> earlier war.<br />

19<br />

Lys. 21.1-5.<br />

loLys. 19·45-48.

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