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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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CONCLUSIONS<br />

42 I<br />

that A<strong>the</strong>ns desperately needed. <strong>The</strong>ramenes was <strong>the</strong> leader <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

A<strong>the</strong>nian moderates. Thrasybulus had <strong>the</strong> confidence <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> democratic<br />

sailors and, no doubt, many <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir friends. Under normal<br />

circumstances, <strong>the</strong>y could have worked toge<strong>the</strong>r to help produce unity<br />

in A<strong>the</strong>ns. Instead, <strong>the</strong> events surrounding <strong>the</strong> fiasco after Arginusae<br />

embroiled <strong>the</strong>m in a bitter controversy that fur<strong>the</strong>r divided A<strong>the</strong>ns<br />

and undermined <strong>the</strong>ir influence. We do not know what <strong>the</strong>ir views<br />

were in 406, but it is at least possible that <strong>the</strong>y were among those who<br />

favored accepting <strong>the</strong> Spartan peace <strong>of</strong>fer. If so, <strong>the</strong>y lacked <strong>the</strong> political<br />

strength to win <strong>the</strong> argument, and <strong>the</strong> opportunity passed. Our<br />

investigations have led us to conclude that A<strong>the</strong>ns' hope for victory or<br />

survival lay in <strong>the</strong> cooperative leadership <strong>of</strong> <strong>The</strong>ramenes and Thrasybulus,<br />

but <strong>the</strong> disgrace <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades removed <strong>the</strong>m from <strong>the</strong> leading<br />

positions. In that very important sense, but in no o<strong>the</strong>r, <strong>the</strong> "private<br />

quarrels" that produced <strong>the</strong> disgrace <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades led to <strong>the</strong> defeat <strong>of</strong><br />

A<strong>the</strong>ns.<br />

It is by no means clear whe<strong>the</strong>r Thucydides had in mind <strong>the</strong> removal<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>The</strong>ramenes and Thrasybulus, and one <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> many reasons we<br />

have for regretting his failure to complete his account <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> war is<br />

that we will never know. In any case, <strong>the</strong> modern student <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>Peloponnesian</strong> <strong>War</strong>, with <strong>the</strong> full advantage <strong>of</strong> hindsight and <strong>the</strong> experience<br />

<strong>of</strong> twenty-five centuries <strong>of</strong> history, may suggest still o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

reasons for <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian failure. One, we have argued, was <strong>the</strong> solitary,<br />

but effective, decision <strong>of</strong> Phrynichus to refuse to engage <strong>the</strong> Spartan<br />

navy <strong>of</strong>f Miletus in 412. At that place and time, <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians had<br />

<strong>the</strong> chance to stamp out <strong>the</strong> rebellion in <strong>the</strong> Aegean before it had<br />

spread too far and reached <strong>the</strong> Hellespont, before <strong>the</strong> Persians had<br />

become deeply involved, and before <strong>the</strong> Spartans had found an effective<br />

leader like Lysander. <strong>The</strong> opportunity was great enough to justify<br />

considerable risk, but in fact, <strong>the</strong> risk was not unduly great." We<br />

should not be surprised that <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians later blamed Phrynichus<br />

for this decision and removed him from <strong>of</strong>fice as a result. What does<br />

cause surprise is Thucydides' rare and vehement defense <strong>of</strong> Phrynichus<br />

against his critics. 16<br />

<strong>The</strong> failure to fight a potentially decisive naval battle at Miletus,<br />

however, was not <strong>the</strong> only lost opportunity for A<strong>the</strong>ns. We have seen<br />

that during <strong>the</strong> last phase <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> war <strong>the</strong> Spartans <strong>of</strong>fered peace on<br />

15<br />

See above, 65-68.<br />

~~~s .27 .s-6.

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