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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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ATHENS RESPONDS 65<br />

"Later on no less than on <strong>the</strong> present occasion, in this matter but also<br />

in all <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rs in which he took part, he appears not to have been<br />

lacking in intelligence. " 54 In <strong>the</strong> face <strong>of</strong> such an endorsement by <strong>the</strong><br />

great contemporary historian, we need not be surprised that most<br />

modern historians have accepted Phrynichus' point <strong>of</strong> view. 55<br />

A different judgment, however, is possible and was made by Phrynichus'<br />

contemporaries. His four fellow generals had strongly disagreed<br />

with him before he persuaded at least two <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>m to vote for withdrawal.<br />

In <strong>the</strong> next year, moreover, he was charged, along with Scironides,<br />

who must have been more closely identified with <strong>the</strong> final<br />

decision than <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rs, with responsibility for <strong>the</strong> loss <strong>of</strong> Iasus and<br />

Amorges. 56 Peisander was engaged in a plot to overthrow <strong>the</strong> democracy<br />

and may have acted from political or personal motives, but <strong>the</strong><br />

men who found Phrynichus and Scironides guilty were not part <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

plot but were good democrats who voted to replace <strong>the</strong> deposed generals<br />

with sound democrats such as Diomedon and Leon. 57 <strong>The</strong>ir verdict<br />

may have been influenced by <strong>the</strong> intervening events, but that does<br />

not make it less honest or correct. 58<br />

In fact, <strong>the</strong>re is good reason to agree with Phrynichus' judges and<br />

to blame him for <strong>the</strong> misfortunes that followed upon his decision not<br />

to fight. Thucydides' account allows us to reconstruct <strong>the</strong> debate in<br />

54<br />

Thucydides' word for "intelligence" is xynesis, and throughout his work he applies<br />

it sparingly. He uses it only for men such as <strong>The</strong>mistocles, Brasidas, Pisistratus, and<br />

Hermocrates <strong>of</strong> Syracuse, and he associates it with such terms as "excellence" (arete),<br />

"competence" (hikanos), and "courage" (andreia). <strong>The</strong>mistocles 1. r 38.3; Brasidas 4· 81.2<br />

(with arete); Pisistratus 6. 54· 5 (with arete); Hermocrates 6. 72.2 (with hikanos and andreia).<br />

Fur<strong>the</strong>r evidence <strong>of</strong> Thucydides' high regard for this quality is that in speeches he<br />

reports Pericles as praising it (1.r4o.r) and Cleon as condemning it (3.37·4-5).<br />

55 Most, in fact, who have noticed or discussed <strong>the</strong> issue. Grote is an exception in<br />

blaming Phrynichus for failing to warn Amorges <strong>of</strong> his withdrawal, but on <strong>the</strong> main<br />

point he follows Thucydides. Busolt (GG lib, 1435) and Meyer (GdA IV:2, 272) <strong>of</strong>fer<br />

arguments in support <strong>of</strong> Phrynichus, whereas Ferguson's account in CAH (V, p6-<br />

F7) clearly implies approval.<br />

56<br />

8. 54· 3. <strong>The</strong> charge against Phrynichus and Scironides was '1mTOv 7rpo3ouvm K

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