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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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16 THE FALL OF THE ATHENIAN EMPIRE<br />

foreseen <strong>the</strong>se events, but <strong>the</strong>ir experience in <strong>the</strong> Archidamian <strong>War</strong><br />

might have made <strong>the</strong>m wary. In 43 I <strong>the</strong>y had asked <strong>the</strong>ir allies in<br />

Sicily and Italy for 500 ships and received none. 74 To expect a vast<br />

reinforcement, far from Sicily and after <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian assault had been<br />

shattered and <strong>the</strong>re was no more danger, would, in any case, have<br />

been unrealistic.<br />

<strong>The</strong> Spartans and <strong>the</strong>ir allies thus had no prospect <strong>of</strong> acquiring<br />

sufficient ships or funds from <strong>the</strong>ir own resources. Realistic hopes <strong>of</strong><br />

defeating A<strong>the</strong>ns, even after <strong>the</strong> Sicilian disaster, depended on <strong>the</strong><br />

possibility <strong>of</strong> obtaining support from <strong>the</strong> only source rich enough to<br />

produce success, <strong>the</strong> treasury <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Persian <strong>Empire</strong>. To gain Persian<br />

support, however, <strong>the</strong> Spartans would have to come to terms with <strong>the</strong><br />

Great King, and that promised to be no easy task. <strong>The</strong>y took great<br />

pride in <strong>the</strong>ir reputation as leaders <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Greek resistance to Persia,<br />

which dated from <strong>the</strong> sixth century. 75 In fact, <strong>the</strong>y had entered <strong>the</strong><br />

war proclaiming <strong>the</strong> slogan "Freedom for <strong>the</strong> Greeks. " 76 <strong>The</strong> Persians,<br />

however, would certainly demand at least <strong>the</strong> recovery <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir dominion<br />

over <strong>the</strong> Greeks <strong>of</strong> Asia Minor in return for support <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

Spartan war against A<strong>the</strong>ns. It would be difficult for most Spartans<br />

to accept <strong>the</strong> abandonment <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Asiatic Greeks as <strong>the</strong> price <strong>of</strong> a<br />

Persian alliance. <strong>The</strong> conservative faction was sure to attack such a<br />

bargain as dishonorable, but even aggressive Spartans might be reluctant<br />

to undo <strong>the</strong> glory obtained by <strong>the</strong> Greeks under Spartan leadership<br />

by freeing <strong>the</strong>ir fellow Greeks from Persian rule. Moreover, <strong>the</strong> more<br />

rapacious among <strong>the</strong>m wanted revenues from <strong>the</strong> Greek cities diverted<br />

from A<strong>the</strong>ns not to Persia but to Sparta. Negotiations for <strong>the</strong> necessary<br />

Persian aid would be delicate, and success was by no means certain.<br />

In 413 <strong>the</strong>re was good reason to think that <strong>the</strong> Persians might be<br />

willing to join in <strong>the</strong> war against A<strong>the</strong>ns. <strong>The</strong> growth <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian<br />

<strong>Empire</strong> had come at Persia's expense, driving <strong>the</strong> Persians from <strong>the</strong><br />

Aegean Sea and <strong>the</strong> Hellespontine waterways and depriving <strong>the</strong> Great<br />

King <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Greek cities <strong>of</strong> Asia Minor and <strong>the</strong> revenues <strong>the</strong>y produced.<br />

Probably more serious than <strong>the</strong> financial loss was <strong>the</strong> blow to <strong>the</strong> pride<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Achaemenid monarchs, each <strong>of</strong> whom styled himself "Great<br />

73 Diod. 13.54.<br />

742.7.2.<br />

75<br />

Lewis, Sparta and Persia, 62-63.<br />

761.124·3; 1.139·3; 2.8.4; 3·32·2, 63·3; 4·85.1, 86.1.

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