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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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ATHENS RESPONDS 63<br />

into <strong>the</strong> Gulf <strong>of</strong> Iasus to get better information, landing and making<br />

camp at Teichiussa. 45 <strong>The</strong>re, he encountered Alcibiades, who had<br />

come on horseback from Miletus, and learned <strong>the</strong> outcome <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> battle.<br />

Thucydides tells us that Alcibiades was eloquent in urging swift action.<br />

"If <strong>the</strong>y did not wish to destroy <strong>the</strong>ir position in Ionia and <strong>the</strong>ir cause<br />

in general, <strong>the</strong>y should go to <strong>the</strong> aid <strong>of</strong> Miletus as fast as possible and<br />

not stand by while it was walled <strong>of</strong>f. " 46<br />

<strong>The</strong> <strong>Peloponnesian</strong>s took him seriously and made ready to sail for<br />

Miletus at dawn, but Alcibiades' speed and eloquence proved to be<br />

irrelevant. Before <strong>the</strong> <strong>Peloponnesian</strong>s could move, <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians had<br />

withdrawn and had left Miletus in enemy hands. <strong>The</strong> news <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

approaching <strong>Peloponnesian</strong> fleet had not daunted Onomacles, Scironides,<br />

Strombichides, and Thrasycles, who wanted to stay in place and<br />

fight a naval battle to <strong>the</strong> finish, but <strong>the</strong> remaining A<strong>the</strong>nian general,<br />

Phrynichus, argued against <strong>the</strong>m. 47 Thucydides reports his speech in<br />

indirect discourse:<br />

He said that he would not do it [fight a battle himself], nor would he allow<br />

<strong>the</strong>m or anyone else to do so, so far as he was able. For when it was possible<br />

to fight at a later time, having more certain knowledge <strong>of</strong> how many ships<br />

<strong>the</strong> enemy had and how many <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir own were available against <strong>the</strong>m,<br />

having prepared adequately and at leisure, he would never, giving way to <strong>the</strong><br />

charge <strong>of</strong> disgrace, run a desperate risk. It was not shameful for <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians<br />

at sea to make an opportune strategic withdrawal, but it would be more<br />

shameful to be defeated, in any circumstances whatever. For <strong>the</strong> state did not<br />

face disgrace only, but alsq <strong>the</strong> greatest danger; after <strong>the</strong> disasters <strong>the</strong>y had<br />

undergone it was hardly justified voluntarily to undertake any <strong>of</strong>fensive action<br />

whatever, unless it was absolutely necessary; it was even less justified, without<br />

being compelled, to rush into dangers <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir own choosing. 48<br />

He advised <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians to collect <strong>the</strong>ir wounded and <strong>the</strong>ir hoplites<br />

and supplies, but not <strong>the</strong>ir booty, which would burden <strong>the</strong> ships too<br />

heavily, and return to Samos. "From <strong>the</strong>re, when once <strong>the</strong>y had ga<strong>the</strong>red<br />

toge<strong>the</strong>r all <strong>the</strong>ir ships, <strong>the</strong>y could launch attacks whenever <strong>the</strong><br />

time might be ripe. " 49<br />

Phrynichus' argument carried <strong>the</strong> day, and <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians sailed to<br />

Samos at dusk, "<strong>the</strong>ir victory incomplete," for Miletus was unconquered<br />

and now free from both siege and blockade. A fur<strong>the</strong>r conse-<br />

45 See Map 4- For <strong>the</strong> location <strong>of</strong> Leros and Teichiussa, see HCT V, 62.<br />

468.26.3.<br />

47 8.27.1. For <strong>the</strong> names <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> generals present, see Busolt (GG III:2, 1434); and<br />

HCTV, 63.<br />

48 8.27.2-3. For a discussion <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> textual difficulties, see HCT V, 63-64.<br />

498.27·4·

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