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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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THE REVOLUTIONARY MOVEMENT 121<br />

forces at Samos toge<strong>the</strong>r "and openly told <strong>the</strong> many that <strong>the</strong> King<br />

would be <strong>the</strong>ir friend and provide <strong>the</strong>m with money if <strong>the</strong>y took back<br />

Alci biades and were not governed by a democracy. " 60 Thus <strong>the</strong> soldiers<br />

and sailors were told everything that <strong>the</strong> members <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> organization<br />

knew. <strong>The</strong>re was no use <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> word oligarchy, but that word had been<br />

abandoned by Alcibiades himself in his private conversations with<br />

organization leaders. If <strong>the</strong> common man did not know that plans to<br />

establish a narrow and permanent oligarchy lurked in <strong>the</strong> hearts <strong>of</strong><br />

some members, nei<strong>the</strong>r did insiders such as Thrasybulus.<br />

"<strong>The</strong> mob," as Thucydides refers to <strong>the</strong> assembly <strong>of</strong> soldiers and<br />

sailors, "even if it was somewhat annoyed at <strong>the</strong> moment by what had<br />

been done, subsided into silence because <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> hopeful prospect <strong>of</strong><br />

pay from <strong>the</strong> King."" This account <strong>of</strong> what must have been a heated<br />

and extended discussion is both tendentious and brief. <strong>The</strong> implication<br />

is that <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian forces at Samos were prepared to allow <strong>the</strong> restoration<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> traitor Alcibiades and an attenuation <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir beloved<br />

democracy because <strong>of</strong> greed. 6 ' <strong>The</strong> passage brings to mind Thucydides'<br />

explanation <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> popular enthusiasm for <strong>the</strong> Sicilian campaign <strong>of</strong> 415.<br />

"<strong>The</strong> mass <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> people and <strong>the</strong> soldiers hoped to get money at <strong>the</strong><br />

moment and to make an addition to <strong>the</strong>ir empire from which <strong>the</strong>y<br />

would have a never ending source <strong>of</strong> income. " 61 Whatever <strong>the</strong> reasons<br />

<strong>the</strong> ordinary fighting men <strong>of</strong> A<strong>the</strong>ns may have had for supporting <strong>the</strong><br />

Sicilian expedition, <strong>the</strong>y had stronger motives than greed for being<br />

willing to consider even unwelcome proposals late in 412 and to think<br />

such unthinkable thoughts as were being proposed to <strong>the</strong>m. <strong>The</strong> salvation<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir city was at issue, perhaps <strong>the</strong>ir own lives and those <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong>ir families, for <strong>the</strong>y could not be sure that a victorious and vengeful<br />

enemy would not treat A<strong>the</strong>ns as <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians had treated Scione<br />

and Melos. No doubt <strong>the</strong>re were outcries at <strong>the</strong> suggestion <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades'<br />

return and even louder ones at talk <strong>of</strong> not being governed by<br />

a democracy. Probably <strong>the</strong> intervention <strong>of</strong> trusted men such as Thrasybulus<br />

helped calm <strong>the</strong> ga<strong>the</strong>ring and remind <strong>the</strong> men that by swallowing<br />

such bitter pills <strong>the</strong>y could obtain <strong>the</strong> financial support that<br />

would allow <strong>the</strong>m to carry on <strong>the</strong> war and win it . ..,.<br />

60<br />

8.48.2.<br />

618.48·]·<br />

62<br />

Meyer (GdA, IV, 286) has caught <strong>the</strong> sense well: "To <strong>the</strong> crowd <strong>of</strong> sailors who<br />

were told <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades' demands and promises <strong>the</strong> prospect <strong>of</strong> plentiful wages was<br />

welcome in <strong>the</strong> highest degree." See also Ha{zfeld, Alcibiade, 233.<br />

6l6.24·3·<br />

64<br />

McCoy, "<strong>The</strong>ramenes," 25-26.

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