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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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148 THE FALL OF THE ATHENIAN EMPIRE<br />

anyone trying to make use <strong>of</strong> it. 64 Thucydides is firm in saying that<br />

<strong>the</strong> commission proposed nothing else." Perhaps <strong>the</strong> syngrapheis could<br />

not agree, some wanting to propose a narrow oligarchy, o<strong>the</strong>rs preferring<br />

a moderate reform, and still o<strong>the</strong>rs opposing any change at<br />

all."' More probably, <strong>the</strong> conspirators wanted nothing more than a<br />

removal <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> legal barriers to revolutionary proposals and got exactly<br />

what <strong>the</strong>y wanted from <strong>the</strong> commissioners-zealous, resigned, or intimidated<br />

as each might be.<br />

<strong>The</strong> provision inviting any A<strong>the</strong>nian to make any proposal he liked<br />

suggests an atmosphere <strong>of</strong> freedom <strong>of</strong> speech totally at odds with <strong>the</strong><br />

menacing and tightly controlled mood at Colonus. <strong>The</strong> only speaker<br />

was Peisander, who now openly revealed <strong>the</strong> program <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> conspirators."<br />

For <strong>the</strong> duration <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> war, pay for public service not connected<br />

with <strong>the</strong> war was abolished, except for <strong>the</strong> nine archons and<br />

<strong>the</strong> prytanies, that is, <strong>the</strong> nominal and effective heads <strong>of</strong> state, who<br />

would be paid only 3 obols a day. 68 <strong>The</strong> core <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> program, however,<br />

was <strong>the</strong> establishment <strong>of</strong> a council <strong>of</strong> Four Hundred "to rule in whatever<br />

way <strong>the</strong>y thought best, with full powers. " 69 <strong>The</strong> Four Hundred<br />

were to be chosen in a most unusual way. <strong>The</strong> assembly would select<br />

a board <strong>of</strong> five called "presidents" (proedroi) who in turn would select<br />

a hundred men who <strong>the</strong>n would each choose three more to make up<br />

<strong>the</strong> council <strong>of</strong> Four Hundred. In <strong>the</strong> threatening circumstances, <strong>the</strong><br />

M8.6p; Ath. Pol. 29-4-<br />

'ss8.67.2.<br />

66<br />

Such is <strong>the</strong> suggestion <strong>of</strong> HCT V, 167.<br />

67<br />

8.67. 3; 68. 1. It is possible that Peisander was a member <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> board <strong>of</strong> ryngrapheis<br />

and that his proposal was formally on <strong>the</strong>ir behalf, but I prefer to think he acted<br />

independently <strong>of</strong> that group. Thucydides' account fits that more closely. Aristotle's<br />

account can be understood ei<strong>the</strong>r way. He begins his description <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> program<br />

proposed at Colonus in this way: J.LE'Tcl. &E 71x&ra "Tijv 1TOAL'TEW:v ~hk"Ta£av T0v8e T0v<br />

'rp01Tov. <strong>The</strong> subject <strong>of</strong> 8t.€To.£cxv may be <strong>the</strong> syngrapheis (as Rhodes [Commentary, J8I]<br />

believes) or <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian people (as HCT V, 217, argues). After <strong>the</strong> fall <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Four<br />

Hundred, everyone involved would have wanted to shift <strong>the</strong> responsibility for <strong>the</strong><br />

introduction <strong>of</strong> that regime to someone else or at least to share <strong>the</strong> guilt. Aristotle's<br />

account provides a greater sense <strong>of</strong> due process and legality; <strong>the</strong> commission, including<br />

<strong>the</strong> probouloi, produces <strong>the</strong> program that will do away with <strong>the</strong> democracy; it is not<br />

<strong>the</strong> work only <strong>of</strong> Peisander and his collaborators. This accords perfectly with <strong>the</strong><br />

general, and entirely misleading, picture he provides <strong>of</strong> a legal and gentle transition.<br />

For a shrewd analysis <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> reasons for <strong>the</strong> differences in <strong>the</strong> accounts, see E. Will,<br />

Le mondegrec et /'orient, vol. I, Le V" sitcle (510-403) (Paris, 1972), 377-378.<br />

66<br />

Ath. Pol. 29.5; Rhodes, Commentary, 382. Thucydides' compressed account <strong>of</strong> this<br />

measure is that "no one should hold <strong>of</strong>fice any longer under <strong>the</strong> present constitution<br />

nor receive pay" (8.67.3). For <strong>the</strong> reasons for this compression, see HCT V, 168.<br />

69 8.67.3: O.pxELv O'rrfl &.v O.pW'To. 'YL'YvWcrKwcrLv a:lrroKpli'Topa.;;.

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