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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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THE FOUR HUNDRED IN POWER 163<br />

<strong>the</strong> extreme wing, and <strong>The</strong>ramenes and probably Thymochares were<br />

moderates. This proportion on <strong>the</strong> board <strong>of</strong> generals seems to be an<br />

accurate representation <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> distribution <strong>of</strong> power within <strong>the</strong> ruling<br />

group. <strong>The</strong> extremists held <strong>the</strong> upper hand, but <strong>the</strong>y must make some<br />

concessions to <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rs. <strong>The</strong> trearment <strong>of</strong> potential dissidents and<br />

enemies within A<strong>the</strong>ns may have reflected <strong>the</strong> same division and compromise.<br />

<strong>The</strong> new regime put some men to death and exiled or imprisoned<br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs, but <strong>the</strong> numbers were not large." Whe<strong>the</strong>r everyone<br />

wanted to move cautiously or <strong>the</strong> moderates restrained <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rs we<br />

cannot know.<br />

Some <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Four Hundred, presumably <strong>the</strong> extremists, wanted to<br />

institute a general recall <strong>of</strong> men exiled under <strong>the</strong> democratic regime.<br />

We do not know how many were in exile or precisely who <strong>the</strong>y were,<br />

but <strong>the</strong>y will have included generals elected by <strong>the</strong> democracy such<br />

as Pythodorus, Sophocles, and <strong>the</strong> historian Thucydides. 16 <strong>The</strong>se men,<br />

presumably, would have lost whatever admiration <strong>the</strong>y may have had<br />

for untrammeled democracy as a result <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir treatment at its hands,<br />

if Thucydides is at all typical." Most <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> exiles were probably those<br />

men who had fled or were expelled in connection with <strong>the</strong> sacrileges<br />

<strong>of</strong> 4' 5. Some <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>m were undoubted! y inveterate enemies <strong>of</strong> democracy,<br />

and those who were not may well have been embittered by<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir experience. After <strong>the</strong> war, <strong>the</strong> exiles were clearly oligarchs<br />

friendly to Sparta, and <strong>the</strong> Spartans made <strong>the</strong>ir recall a condition for<br />

peace." <strong>The</strong>re is good reason to believe that many <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> exiles <strong>of</strong> 41 1<br />

were enemies <strong>of</strong> democracy to some extent. Thucydides' language<br />

makes that clear, for he says that <strong>the</strong> failure to recall <strong>the</strong> exiles was an<br />

exception to <strong>the</strong> "great departures from <strong>the</strong> rule <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> demos" in which<br />

<strong>the</strong> Four Hundred o<strong>the</strong>rwise engaged." <strong>The</strong>ir reason for holding back,<br />

he tells us, was Alcibiades. A general recall and amnesty would have<br />

allowed him to return, something <strong>the</strong> extremists would not welcome<br />

at all. However, <strong>the</strong>y could have recalled <strong>the</strong> exiles and specifically<br />

been elected under <strong>the</strong> democracy and, in spite <strong>of</strong> his deeds, might not have seemed<br />

as reliable as <strong>the</strong> conspirators would have liked.<br />

15<br />

Thucydides (8.70.2) says that <strong>the</strong> victims were not many. <strong>The</strong> specific reference<br />

is to those put' to death, but <strong>the</strong>re is no reason to think that <strong>the</strong> exiles and imprisonments<br />

were widespread.<br />

164.6s.J; s.z6.s.<br />

17<br />

For Thucydides' political opinions, see M. F. McGregor, Phoenix X (1956), 93-<br />

102.<br />

19<br />

Atb. Pol. 34.3; Xen. 2.2.20; Plut. Lys. 14.4; And. J.I 1.<br />

19<br />

8.70. I.

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