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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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CONCLUSIONS 417<br />

litical-were not adequate to maintain <strong>the</strong> empire <strong>the</strong>y had acquired<br />

or even to control events outside <strong>the</strong> Peloponnesus for long. <strong>The</strong>ir<br />

attempts brought division and weakness to <strong>the</strong>ir own state and to <strong>the</strong><br />

rest <strong>of</strong> Greece. A<strong>the</strong>ns, on <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r hand, was potentially much<br />

stronger than <strong>the</strong> position assigned her by <strong>the</strong> peace. Once A<strong>the</strong>ns<br />

had been spared, it was natural that A<strong>the</strong>nian power would once again<br />

become considerable.<br />

<strong>The</strong> settlement <strong>of</strong> 404 was nei<strong>the</strong>r a "Punic Peace" that permanently<br />

destroyed A<strong>the</strong>nian power nor a moderate, negotiated settlement that<br />

s<strong>of</strong>tened hard feelings. No sooner was A<strong>the</strong>ns free than its people and<br />

leaders began to plan for <strong>the</strong> return <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> empire, with associated<br />

power, glory, and resistance to Spartan domination <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Greek states.<br />

Like Germany after <strong>the</strong> First World <strong>War</strong>, A<strong>the</strong>ns in 404 was disarmed<br />

but unappeased. Keeping it disarmed would require strength, commitment,<br />

cooperation, and unity <strong>of</strong> purpose not possessed by <strong>the</strong> victorious<br />

powers. <strong>The</strong>ban ambition had already grown to <strong>the</strong> point <strong>of</strong><br />

demanding parity with <strong>the</strong> leading states and, after a while, hegemony.<br />

Sparta's vain attempts at domination brought only division and weakness<br />

that soon put an end to Greek power and subjected <strong>the</strong> Greeks<br />

to <strong>the</strong> control <strong>of</strong> outsiders, first to <strong>the</strong> interventions <strong>of</strong> Persia and <strong>the</strong>n<br />

to conquest by Macedonia. It is both legitimate and instructive to think<br />

<strong>of</strong> what we call <strong>the</strong> <strong>Peloponnesian</strong> <strong>War</strong> as "<strong>the</strong> great war between<br />

A<strong>the</strong>ns and Sparta," as one scholar has designated it." Like <strong>the</strong> European<br />

war from 1914 to 1918 to which <strong>the</strong> title <strong>the</strong> "Great <strong>War</strong>" was<br />

applied by an earlier generation that knew only one, it was a tragic<br />

event; a great turning point in history; <strong>the</strong> end <strong>of</strong> an era <strong>of</strong> progress,<br />

prosperity, confidence, and hope; and <strong>the</strong> beginning <strong>of</strong> a darker time.<br />

<strong>The</strong> vast and bleak consequences <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> war lead us to look back<br />

upon it and wonder whe<strong>the</strong>r its course and outcome might have been<br />

different. <strong>The</strong> answers to such questions are not available to <strong>the</strong> historian<br />

in his pr<strong>of</strong>essional role, but <strong>the</strong> search for <strong>the</strong>m is irresistible to<br />

anyone who has a normal curiosity and hopes that history may reward<br />

its devoted students with a degree <strong>of</strong> understanding and even wisdom.<br />

In earlier volumes we have asked whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> war might have been<br />

avoided entirely and whe<strong>the</strong>r different strategies or changes in leadership<br />

might have produced different results. It remains here to ask<br />

why <strong>the</strong> last phase <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> war, after <strong>the</strong> Sicilian campaign, produced<br />

a total victory for <strong>the</strong> Spartans and whe<strong>the</strong>r ano<strong>the</strong>r outcome was<br />

11 B. W. Henderson, <strong>The</strong> Great <strong>War</strong> between A<strong>the</strong>ns and Sparta (London, 1927).

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