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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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120 THE FALL OF THE ATHENIAN EMPIRE<br />

side not only Tissaphernes but also <strong>the</strong> Great King <strong>of</strong> Persia. This<br />

time <strong>the</strong> condition he set, if Thucydides' paraphrase is precise, was<br />

that he would do <strong>the</strong>se things "if <strong>the</strong>y did not retain <strong>the</strong> democracy,<br />

for in that way <strong>the</strong> King would have greater trust in <strong>the</strong>m.,,. We may<br />

guess that moderates like Thrasybulus had reacted badly to <strong>the</strong> word<br />

oligarchy in Alcibiades' earlier communications and that <strong>the</strong> alert exile<br />

had adjusted his language to reduce unnecessary friction. "Not to retain<br />

<strong>the</strong> democracy" could be understood differently by moderates and<br />

oligarchs but "replacing <strong>the</strong> base democracy with an oligarchy" would<br />

not. 55 When <strong>the</strong>y rerurned to Samos with <strong>the</strong>ir report, <strong>the</strong> important<br />

men who had sent <strong>the</strong>m were much encouraged. Thucydides still does<br />

not distinguish among <strong>the</strong>m, saying <strong>of</strong> all <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>m that <strong>the</strong>y had great<br />

hopes <strong>of</strong> bringing <strong>the</strong> government into <strong>the</strong>ir own hands and also <strong>of</strong><br />

overcoming <strong>the</strong> enemy. 56 No doubt, <strong>the</strong> rwo factions we have discerned<br />

emphasized different aspects <strong>of</strong> those hopes.<br />

<strong>The</strong> next step was for <strong>the</strong> leaders to form "those suitable" into an<br />

effective political body by means <strong>of</strong> an oath. 57 Thucydides calls this<br />

political body a xynomosia, which <strong>of</strong>ten means conspiracy, with all <strong>of</strong><br />

its nasty connotations, and he may have intended that sense. But <strong>the</strong><br />

word may also mean merely a group <strong>of</strong> men united for political purposes<br />

and bound by an oath. Thucydides uses <strong>the</strong> same word to describe<br />

<strong>the</strong> political clubs <strong>of</strong> long standing in A<strong>the</strong>ns, and when<br />

Thrasybulus organized <strong>the</strong> democratic forces at Samos, he had <strong>the</strong>m<br />

swear an oath <strong>of</strong> loyalty to <strong>the</strong> democracy." Whatever Thucydides<br />

meant, we should not think <strong>of</strong> this organization as a secret cell limited<br />

to a few conspirators. "Those suitable" probably included soldiers from<br />

<strong>the</strong> ranks, for many <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> thousand hoplites sent on <strong>the</strong> Milesian<br />

campaign were at Samos. 59 <strong>The</strong> organization certainly included Thrasybulus<br />

and, <strong>the</strong>refore, could not have been simply an oligarchic<br />

consprracy.<br />

"< <strong>The</strong> organization's next step makes it clear that secrecy was not an<br />

important part <strong>of</strong> its character, for it called <strong>the</strong> men <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian<br />

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