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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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THE FALL OF THE ATHENIAN EMPIRE<br />

<strong>the</strong> straits was not Alcibiades but Thrasybulus. A<strong>the</strong>ns could certainly<br />

have used ano<strong>the</strong>r military leader <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades' ability in <strong>the</strong> last years<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> war, if he could have subordinated his own needs and interests<br />

to those <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> state. But whatever Alcibiades' personal inclinations<br />

might have been in 406, <strong>the</strong> burden <strong>of</strong> his past was too great. Even<br />

apart from his personality and ambitions, <strong>the</strong> number <strong>of</strong> his enemies,<br />

<strong>the</strong> intensity <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir hatred, and <strong>the</strong> eagerness with which <strong>the</strong>y waited<br />

to attack him compelled him to seek extraordinary achievements and<br />

make promises that could not be fulfilled in order to acquire and<br />

maintain a popularity that was his only security. This drove him to<br />

take risks that ano<strong>the</strong>r general would have avoided and that were bound<br />

to bring disaster to A<strong>the</strong>ns.<br />

From a political point <strong>of</strong> view, moreover, Alcibiades was a burden<br />

to his native city. What A<strong>the</strong>ns needed more than anything in its time<br />

<strong>of</strong> crisis was unity <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> kind Pericles had provided at <strong>the</strong> start <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

war. Alcibiades, however, was preeminently a divisive figure who<br />

evoked powerful feelings <strong>of</strong> admiration or dislike but not steady support<br />

from a large portion <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> citizenry. He could not win a reliable<br />

majority to support his own policies, but he could prevent anyone else<br />

from doing so, for when things went badly, <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nians <strong>of</strong>ten looked<br />

to <strong>the</strong> glamor and promise <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades for salvation. As a character<br />

in Aristophanes' Frogs said less than a year after Notium: "<strong>The</strong>y yearn<br />

for him, <strong>the</strong>y hate him, but <strong>the</strong>y want to have him back.""' It is<br />

interesting, if vain, to speculate about what would have happened if<br />

Alcibiades had departed and Thrasybulus, who would later prove<br />

himself an able political leader as well as a great general, had been<br />

allowed to emerge in his place, but <strong>the</strong> disgrace <strong>of</strong> Alcibiades discredited<br />

his friends as well as himself. In <strong>the</strong> new elections <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> spring<br />

<strong>of</strong> 406, nei<strong>the</strong>r Thrasybulus nor <strong>The</strong>ramenes were chosen. Perhaps<br />

that was <strong>the</strong> most serious result <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spartan victory at Notium.

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