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The Fall of the Athenian Empire-(A New History of the Peloponnesian War) Donald Kagan - (1987)

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine) ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!! Strabo – “Geography” “There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.” (Strab. 7.fragments.9) ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

MACEDONIA is GREECE and will always be GREECE- (if they are desperate to steal a name, Monkeydonkeys suits them just fine)

ΚΑΤΩ Η ΣΥΓΚΥΒΕΡΝΗΣΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΤΩΝ!!!

Strabo – “Geography”
“There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Hebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.”
(Strab. 7.fragments.9)

ΚΚΕ, ΚΝΕ, ΟΝΝΕΔ, ΑΓΟΡΑ,ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΝΕΑ,ΦΩΝΗ,ΦΕΚ,ΝΟΜΟΣ,LIFO,MACEDONIA, ALEXANDER, GREECE,IKEA

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THE FOUR HUNDRED IN POWER 169<br />

friends <strong>of</strong> democracy and enemies <strong>of</strong> oligarchic conspiracy: to <strong>the</strong><br />

generals Leon and Diomedon, "for <strong>the</strong>se men bore <strong>the</strong> oligarchy unwillingly<br />

because <strong>the</strong>y were honored by <strong>the</strong> people"; to <strong>the</strong> trierarch<br />

Thrasybulus; and to Thrasyllus, although he was only a hoplite in <strong>the</strong><br />

ranks. <strong>The</strong> Samians sought out <strong>the</strong>se men because <strong>the</strong>y were among<br />

those "who always seemed to be most opposed to <strong>the</strong> conspirators. wu<br />

Thucydides' language here reveals important information about <strong>the</strong>.<br />

state <strong>of</strong> affairs at Samos that points in a different direction from his<br />

general account. Instead <strong>of</strong> a monolithic conspiracy <strong>of</strong> oligarchs working<br />

to overthrow <strong>the</strong> democracies in A<strong>the</strong>ns and Samos, we see a more<br />

nuanced picture. Staunch democrats such as Leon and Diomedon had<br />

accepted <strong>the</strong> idea <strong>of</strong> bringing back Alcibiades and altering <strong>the</strong> democratic<br />

constitution at A<strong>the</strong>ns, however unhappily <strong>the</strong>y viewed this<br />

plan. Were <strong>the</strong>y among those whom Thucydides has characterized as<br />

part <strong>of</strong> "<strong>the</strong> mob," who, "even if <strong>the</strong>y were somewhat annoyed for <strong>the</strong><br />

moment hy what was being done, kept quiet hy <strong>the</strong> pleasant prospect<br />

<strong>of</strong> pay from <strong>the</strong> King?" Or were <strong>the</strong>y among those "conspiring to<br />

install oligarchy" who went <strong>of</strong>f privately to consider <strong>the</strong>ir detailed plan<br />

<strong>of</strong> action after making <strong>the</strong>ir general intentions known to <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian<br />

forces on Samos? 44 It is hard to imagine that any two A<strong>the</strong>nian generals,<br />

almost always chosen from men <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> upper classes, could deserve<br />

<strong>the</strong> former designation hut no less difficult to believe that staunch<br />

democrats such as Leon and Diomedon proved <strong>the</strong>mselves to be could<br />

have been thought <strong>of</strong> as instigators <strong>of</strong> oligarchy. Evidently, <strong>the</strong>y fit in<br />

nei<strong>the</strong>r group and require some o<strong>the</strong>r designation. Because <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

rank <strong>the</strong>y could not have been excluded from <strong>the</strong> private deliberations<br />

once it was publicly announced what was afoot. Thus that inner circle<br />

must have included true oligarchs like Peisander but also thoroughgoing<br />

democrats like Leon and Diomedon, who reluctantly tolerated<br />

<strong>the</strong> course <strong>of</strong> events. To an outsider, <strong>the</strong>y may have seemed part <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> leading group and <strong>the</strong>refore friendly to oligarchy, at least to some<br />

degree. That would explain <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rwise incomprehensible decision<br />

later taken by <strong>the</strong> A<strong>the</strong>nian democrats on Samos to dismiss <strong>the</strong>m along<br />

with <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r generals and those trierarchs thought to be unreliable. 45<br />

Even more striking is <strong>the</strong> democrats' confidence in <strong>the</strong> trierarch<br />

4}8. 73+<br />

#8.48·3·<br />

45 8.76.2. See HCT V, 268, which includes <strong>the</strong> perceptive observation that "no exception<br />

is made for Leon and Diomedon, who disliked <strong>the</strong> oligarchy (]3·4) but may<br />

have been thought to have acquiesced in it too easily."

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