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Ray Ozzie 109<br />

We were pitching Groove as a fairly horizontal technology. We were applying<br />

it to productivity challenges, but to the extent th<strong>at</strong> it had the potential to<br />

c<strong>at</strong>ch on broadly, they would certainly have been the biggest competitor.<br />

Livingston: Looking back, was the Microsoft thre<strong>at</strong> real?<br />

Ozzie: Oh yeah, they are brilliant technologically and from a business str<strong>at</strong>egy<br />

perspective. If you believe th<strong>at</strong> Microsoft is your competitor, it’s better to keep<br />

stealth and then embrace them <strong>at</strong> the right time, when you believe it can be to<br />

your advantage to embrace them. In the case of Groove, we were having distribution<br />

challenges, we needed money, we were raising a round. One of the<br />

biggest questions we were encountering with our enterprise customers was<br />

“Why isn’t Microsoft just going to crush you tomorrow?”<br />

And although I brought some credibility to the table because of my background<br />

<strong>at</strong> IBM, having Microsoft as a backer only helped us within those enterprise<br />

accounts.<br />

Livingston: Back to Lotus Notes—were you already working on an applic<strong>at</strong>ion<br />

when Lotus discovered and then funded you? Wh<strong>at</strong> was the history there?<br />

Ozzie: As I mentioned earlier, I first wrote the spec for Groove in 1982. But I<br />

couldn’t find funding for the idea. So in 1983 I was hired by Mitch Kapor and<br />

Jon<strong>at</strong>han Sachs <strong>at</strong> Lotus Development, just after Lotus 1-2-3 release 1 had<br />

shipped. I did a small amount of work on 1-2-3 1A, then led a small team to cre<strong>at</strong>e<br />

Lotus Symphony, one of the first “suite” products. I agreed to do Symphony,<br />

if Mitch would help make introductions to VCs and help get Notes off the<br />

ground. The day Symphony shipped, Mitch made good on his word. But<br />

because Lotus was in a good cash position, r<strong>at</strong>her than introduce me to VCs,<br />

Mitch suggested Lotus supply the capital. I then formed Iris Associ<strong>at</strong>es in<br />

Westford, Mass., with three other programmers in December 1984.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> surprised you the most?<br />

Ozzie: How difficult the go-to-market challenges are. I suppose it shouldn’t<br />

have surprised me, but in both the cases of Notes and Groove, building a market<br />

in something th<strong>at</strong>’s new can be as, if not more, challenging than building the<br />

technology. We were building some very complex technology, and I thought,<br />

since we were developing to wh<strong>at</strong> seemed to be a fairly straightforward customer<br />

value proposition, going to market would be a lot easier.<br />

Changing people’s habits is extremely difficult. Notes came out <strong>at</strong> a time<br />

when things were kind of booming from a tech perspective. But Groove came<br />

out <strong>at</strong> a very difficult time. It was just post-Bubble and IT spending was really<br />

down. If you are serving the consumer, everyone expects not to have to pay for<br />

anything. In business, if you’re talking with IT, it’s just very difficult to justify<br />

any incremental spend.<br />

I guess as a tech entrepreneur I would nurture rel<strong>at</strong>ionships with people<br />

who are outside your skill set on the marketing and sales side or business development<br />

side. Rel<strong>at</strong>ionships you know you can trust. As a technologist, it’s very<br />

difficult to hire someone on the marketing and sales side because they’re so different<br />

than technologists and you don’t know who to trust. It takes about a year

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