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410 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

20 offices, and I said, “If we need an office th<strong>at</strong> big in a year from now, then I<br />

don’t know wh<strong>at</strong> we’re doing, because we don’t need th<strong>at</strong> many people.” He<br />

said, “OK. You can make th<strong>at</strong> decision.” So we got like a 1,500-square-foot<br />

office th<strong>at</strong> we outgrew in 8 months. People asked why we got such a small<br />

office, and it was because I thought everything else was too big. I realized th<strong>at</strong><br />

on my own. It was really important; he did it in a good way.<br />

Livingston: This is surprising, based on the stories I’ve heard about investors.<br />

Trott: The Neoteny investment was such an anomaly. We were this incredibly<br />

early-stage company th<strong>at</strong> had no structure, no employees, no really good<br />

accounting, nothing but the LLC. But we had a huge customer base, which I<br />

don’t think most startups have. We had hundreds of thousands of people using<br />

our products, and it had been oper<strong>at</strong>ed with so few resources. So we had to<br />

really start from scr<strong>at</strong>ch.<br />

If it wasn’t for Barak, I don’t know where we would be now. We knew wh<strong>at</strong><br />

we knew, which was the product. But there were all these little things th<strong>at</strong> you<br />

just have no clue about. It was incredibly overwhelming. But if you think about<br />

it too much, then you don’t do it. You almost have to not know wh<strong>at</strong> you’re getting<br />

into to actually do it.<br />

Livingston: Tell me about other things th<strong>at</strong> went wrong.<br />

Trott: Ben and I were still trying to do everything ourselves, and th<strong>at</strong> was<br />

incredibly stupid because we just wore ourselves to de<strong>at</strong>h. Ben and I pretty<br />

much were the only people th<strong>at</strong> built the first version of TypePad. We said,<br />

“Let’s not hire anybody. We did Movable Type on our own. We can do TypePad<br />

on our own.” And it killed us.<br />

The slow pace <strong>at</strong> which we hired was good for the budget because we were<br />

able to oper<strong>at</strong>e on th<strong>at</strong> $600,000 for a really long time. But <strong>at</strong> the same time, it<br />

wasn’t good th<strong>at</strong> it was <strong>at</strong> the expense of our health.<br />

I made the decision to put Barak in <strong>at</strong> CEO in November of 2002, but he<br />

didn’t become CEO until July of 2003. He was kind of acting like CEO in<br />

January 2003. He worked without a salary. He got paid eventually, but he<br />

worked under just a promise th<strong>at</strong> he’d be made CEO, which was amazing. To<br />

work 6 months with just an understanding—he had a lot of faith in us.<br />

Livingston: Why did it take so long?<br />

Trott: Because we were just so focused on oper<strong>at</strong>ing the business. He had his<br />

employment letter th<strong>at</strong> I had to write and we had to consult a lawyer—it’s kind<br />

of a big thing to put a CEO in. Because of all the negoti<strong>at</strong>ions (th<strong>at</strong> were really<br />

minor, actually), it just always got put on the back burner.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> else went wrong?<br />

Trott: Skimping on hardware sometimes. I wouldn’t recommend th<strong>at</strong>. We<br />

often had to replace the stuff we bought because we had been so worried about<br />

costs.<br />

But th<strong>at</strong>’s not always a bad thing. With LiveJournal, Brad [Fitzp<strong>at</strong>rick]<br />

wrote everything instead of buying things. Th<strong>at</strong> worked for him. He did his

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