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160 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

might have been different.” So I might rely more on my intuition if I were to do<br />

it again.<br />

Livingston: Were you the ringleader to start the company?<br />

van Hoff: Well, in a way. Jon<strong>at</strong>han and I came up with the initial idea to do a<br />

startup, but you’re talking about a difference in weeks. Very quickly it became<br />

the four of us. Then you need to make some decisions about when do you want<br />

to leave and how much money are you going to put in. Then once you’ve left, it<br />

gets quite interesting. Because then you’ve got to go for it whether you like it<br />

or not.<br />

Livingston: Were the founding shares divided equally?<br />

van Hoff: Yes, we split it four ways. We were very lucky because <strong>at</strong> the time of<br />

the IPO, the founders still had a fair amount of stock. Financially, the company<br />

was structured really well. Th<strong>at</strong>’s mostly because early on, we had some really<br />

good VC deals. Especially with four founders, if you’re not careful, you end up<br />

with such a small portion of the company.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> advice would you give to a group of people who worked<br />

together and wanted to go out on their own?<br />

van Hoff: Don’t take anything with you. Especially if you go and do something<br />

th<strong>at</strong> is somewh<strong>at</strong> competitive with your previous employer. Although you might<br />

not have actually taken anything—ideas, physical things, or time—if you’re successful,<br />

they’ll come and sue you just for fun. They’ll have a really good starting<br />

point because you are a previous employee. You must have taken something<br />

because you’re successful now, right?<br />

So unless you go into a completely different area, you have to be very careful<br />

about the intellectual property. So really wh<strong>at</strong> you’ve got to do is: don’t plan<br />

anything, don’t write anything down. Talk about it over a beer and then leave.<br />

And then you start. Don’t use any office equipment or email.<br />

It’s irrelevant if the company fails, but if the company succeeds, th<strong>at</strong> can be<br />

a big problem. The funny thing is th<strong>at</strong> they won’t sue you until you’re successful,<br />

because why sue someone who is a failure? And this is particularly important<br />

if you start out <strong>at</strong> a big company like Google or Amazon, because they have<br />

a lot of time and money to spend on these kinds of things.

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