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244 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

Fletcher: Sure. Why do you start a company? Do you start a company to get<br />

rich? Do you start a company for the fun of it? Th<strong>at</strong>’s going to play into it also.<br />

And then, wh<strong>at</strong>’s your definition of rich, I suppose is another thing. It doesn’t<br />

take a lot of money to let you live without working ever again, if you do the<br />

numbers. So wh<strong>at</strong> are your goals in life? You have to think th<strong>at</strong> through.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> other practical advice would you give to would-be founders?<br />

Fletcher: I guess, get a lawyer. With ONElist, I incorpor<strong>at</strong>ed not using a<br />

lawyer. There’s a company in Delaware called the Company Corpor<strong>at</strong>ion, so I<br />

cre<strong>at</strong>ed an LLC by myself before I had a lawyer. Then we went online and fixed<br />

things after the fact . . . it was a big hassle because VCs want a C-corp—any sort<br />

of investor generally wants a C-corp because th<strong>at</strong>’s wh<strong>at</strong> they understand.<br />

With Bloglines, I had an accountant, <strong>at</strong> least for a good part of it, who was<br />

fairly cheap. One of the hassles of ONElist was th<strong>at</strong> I was the one managing the<br />

books the first year, as well as answering the 200 support emails every night, as<br />

well as doing all of this other stuff. I guess I’m torn with how cheap do you want<br />

to go with a startup. Having an accountant is kind of a nice frill.<br />

I also think a lot of people don’t know about all these outsourcing sites,<br />

which are absolutely wonderful. One of the things th<strong>at</strong> I did do differently with<br />

Bloglines was rely upon an outsourcing site, in this case eLance, for a lot of<br />

things. Not a lot of coding, but other things. So, if I wanted to put together a<br />

present<strong>at</strong>ion and I needed a couple of graphics, I put up a proposal on eLance<br />

and ended up working with some lady in Australia, who turned things around in<br />

6 hours, for $50. So sites like th<strong>at</strong> are so amazingly powerful, which is just one<br />

more reason why it’s really easy to do very small companies, because you don’t<br />

need a graphic designer necessarily.<br />

Livingston: Can you remember any moments in ONElist th<strong>at</strong> were harrowing?<br />

Fletcher: Sure. Many times. The first year especially when I was still working<br />

the full-time job <strong>at</strong> Sun and doing this on the side.<br />

Livingston: You were still working?<br />

Fletcher: Oh yeah, did I forget to mention th<strong>at</strong>? In most aspects of <strong>at</strong> least my<br />

fiscal life, I’m very conserv<strong>at</strong>ive. I had a mortgage and didn’t want to take the<br />

leap of faith to do this without a salary, and so I started ONElist while I was still<br />

working full-time <strong>at</strong> Sun and did th<strong>at</strong> for the first year.<br />

Livingston: Weren’t you worried they would claim they owned the IP?<br />

Fletcher: Yeah, and I talked to a lawyer about th<strong>at</strong>. Because ONElist was not <strong>at</strong><br />

all competitive with anything th<strong>at</strong> Sun was doing—and I certainly wasn’t working<br />

on it while I was <strong>at</strong> Sun—it was thought to be OK. But th<strong>at</strong> is absolutely a<br />

valid concern. But I was, <strong>at</strong> least in th<strong>at</strong> regard, very much risk-averse, because<br />

I had a mortgage and didn’t have much savings back then. So the first year was<br />

incredibly stressful. The whole thing was stressful, but the first year especially.<br />

For example, it got to be the summertime and we’d take off for the weekend.<br />

I’d come back and have 500 emails to answer for customer support on Sunday<br />

evening. And I’d just curl up into a fetal position . . . and I had to go to work the

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