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132 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

Livingston: Did you make a bid for the button?<br />

Brady: We bid up to a certain point in which we felt comfortable th<strong>at</strong> we could<br />

make a return on money. After which point, we knew it became “investing in<br />

the brand,” and I don’t think we felt comfortable investing in the brand <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong><br />

point. Because we didn’t know how big the Internet was going to be <strong>at</strong><br />

th<strong>at</strong> point. Even though the press was going crazy, the numbers were still pretty<br />

small compared to any other media. I think it was $5 million th<strong>at</strong> Excite paid for<br />

th<strong>at</strong> button.<br />

We definitely worried about Excite, and we were worried about Microsoft.<br />

In the summer of ’95, Bill G<strong>at</strong>es sent out one of his famous memos on the<br />

Internet. I think this was one of the first ones. It talked about Microsoft needing<br />

to get in the game, and he ended the memo with: “My favorite site: Yahoo.<br />

Cool. Cool. Cool.”<br />

At first our reaction was, “Yeah, cool, cool, cool,” and then our next thought<br />

was, “Oh no. Does th<strong>at</strong> mean we’re in Bill’s crosshairs or does th<strong>at</strong> mean we’re<br />

just cool?” Any time you talk to Microsoft, just the way they do business, they<br />

have the potential to do wh<strong>at</strong>ever the hell they want, so when you go to them<br />

their mindset is always, “We could partner with you, or we could do it<br />

ourselves.”<br />

We were always very nervous about them doing anything. At the time, I<br />

think IE had just come out, and it was a poor effort, their first crack <strong>at</strong> a<br />

browser, but still, you knew th<strong>at</strong> they were going to grow. There was always th<strong>at</strong><br />

thre<strong>at</strong> looming over us.<br />

There was also a handful of other competitors: Lycos, WebCrawler. Also,<br />

AOL was growing faster than the Internet for a period of time. Everyone heard<br />

“Internet,” but then they went and signed up for AOL because it was the easiest<br />

way to get online. Although we thought it was crazy, AOL’s walled garden was<br />

bigger than the Internet for a handful of months there, which made our str<strong>at</strong>egy<br />

impossible. Th<strong>at</strong> was definitely a thre<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Livingston: Did you ever see anything on a competitor’s site where you said,<br />

“They just launched this fe<strong>at</strong>ure; we have to do it now.”<br />

Brady: In the early days, not too much. Jerry and Dave were way ahead of the<br />

curve. The ideas th<strong>at</strong> they had really early on were right str<strong>at</strong>egically and<br />

cre<strong>at</strong>ively. So everything we did through the middle of ’97, invariably we were<br />

first and we did it very well.<br />

The one thing we didn’t do th<strong>at</strong> all our competitors were spending a lot of<br />

time doing was search. They were crawling the Web and doing full text search,<br />

and our str<strong>at</strong>egy was, “Look, th<strong>at</strong>’s a technology game. We’re not a technology<br />

company, we’re a media company. Since there are so many of them out there,<br />

we’re always going to be able to rent it.” Th<strong>at</strong> was the thought back then, and<br />

until Google came along th<strong>at</strong> str<strong>at</strong>egy was perfect. Because, as things played<br />

out, th<strong>at</strong>’s exactly wh<strong>at</strong> happened.<br />

We had this searchable directory. It was big, and it had all the popular sites,<br />

so you could search for anything on it. But it didn’t have everything. If you<br />

really wanted to search for th<strong>at</strong> needle in the haystack, th<strong>at</strong> wasn’t us. But we

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