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194 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

the model for venture capital was—and it is still to some extent this way today,<br />

but certainly was 10 years ago—their ideal companies are ones where people<br />

come in and say, “We have this idea. Here’s the market. Here’s the size. I want<br />

$5 million, and I’ll be profitable from day one. And I’ll give you half my<br />

company.”<br />

We came in and said, “It’s not like th<strong>at</strong> in our case.” First of all, it was a consumer<br />

play, and th<strong>at</strong> was new. Second, it was a service company—because early<br />

on we had really wanted to do th<strong>at</strong>. At th<strong>at</strong> time, VCs generally didn’t invest in<br />

service companies. Number three, we said, “It’s going to be capital intensive.<br />

It’s going to require a lot of money. You can give us a little bit of money right<br />

now, but it’s going to require a lot more.” So we had three things going against<br />

us, and they all kind of freaked out. The only two people th<strong>at</strong> didn’t freak out<br />

were Stewart Alsop of NEA and Geoff Yang of Redpoint.<br />

Livingston: Why do you think they thought differently?<br />

Ramsay: Geoff told me th<strong>at</strong> he was fascin<strong>at</strong>ed by this space and wanted to do<br />

something, but he hadn’t seen too many companies with any ideas. We kind of<br />

wafted in, and he thought, “Gre<strong>at</strong>. Suddenly we’ve got a couple people who<br />

could probably run a company and who’ve got a cre<strong>at</strong>ive idea and can make it<br />

happen.” So he was all fired up about th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Stewart is a visionary. He’s way out there. So this was a n<strong>at</strong>ural for him. He<br />

looks for companies th<strong>at</strong> are trying to push the envelope and do something radically<br />

different. It kind of fit him emotionally. Neither of these guys were thinking<br />

about, “How much money do we make? Is the market ready?” They<br />

certainly weren’t thinking about, “Are they going to viol<strong>at</strong>e copyrights or get<br />

sued?” or all th<strong>at</strong> stuff th<strong>at</strong> we got thre<strong>at</strong>ened with. They just thought, “Here’s a<br />

couple of people th<strong>at</strong> have got a fascin<strong>at</strong>ing idea. Who knows if it’s going to<br />

work or not, but we’ll give them some money and see wh<strong>at</strong> happens.”<br />

Livingston: Your original idea was not just a DVR, right?<br />

Ramsay: It wasn’t. It was this flamboyant, home server network thing. And we<br />

actually got funded based on th<strong>at</strong>. When we got into the technology, we realized,<br />

“Hey, network technology isn’t quite there yet. The idea of a server is fine,<br />

but how do you explain it to the average consumer?” We learned very quickly<br />

th<strong>at</strong> this was going to be a hard sell and a hard thing technologically.<br />

At the time, this server had a ton of apps th<strong>at</strong> we thought up, one of which<br />

was DVR. We said, “Look, you can’t do everything, so let’s design a simple<br />

server based on very low-cost technology. Let’s decide on one app th<strong>at</strong> we think<br />

is the killer app to run on it, and let’s do th<strong>at</strong>. If th<strong>at</strong>’s successful, then we’ll<br />

branch out. Forget the network thing and forget the massive amounts of storage<br />

and high cost and hardware models and all th<strong>at</strong>.”<br />

We thought the DVR idea—we called it PVR <strong>at</strong> the time, personalized television<br />

or something like th<strong>at</strong>—we thought this was a cool idea. It fascin<strong>at</strong>ed us<br />

because, once you looked under the covers, you realized it was a very difficult<br />

technical problem. The fact th<strong>at</strong> it was a consumer product and it had to be<br />

television meant th<strong>at</strong> it had to be completely reliable and bulletproof. Jim

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