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68 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

Kraus: First, back in those days, it was legitim<strong>at</strong>e to ask, “Why would I use a<br />

search engine more than a couple of times to find the sites th<strong>at</strong> I like? Then I’ll<br />

bookmark those sites and never go back to a search engine again.”<br />

Microsoft made a buyout offer for Excite in l<strong>at</strong>e ’95, and even then I had<br />

Microsoft’s CTO, N<strong>at</strong>han Myhrvold, yelling <strong>at</strong> me, “Search is not a business.<br />

People are just going to search a few times and then bookmark wh<strong>at</strong> they want<br />

to go to.”<br />

The second was th<strong>at</strong> nobody knew wh<strong>at</strong> the business model was going to be.<br />

In fact, Excite really never got the business model right <strong>at</strong> all. We fell into the<br />

classic problem of how, when a new medium comes out, it adopts the practices,<br />

the content, the business models of the old medium—which fails, and then the<br />

more appropri<strong>at</strong>e models get figured out. For example, all the television programming<br />

in its early days looked like radio. It was literally the same guys reading<br />

the radio program on television, and it was extraordinarily boring. And<br />

advertising was radio advertising—the announcer reading the ad.<br />

We too adopted the business model of the prior medium, which was print.<br />

Cost per thousand impression (cpm)-based advertising was how we made<br />

money in search, and th<strong>at</strong> was wrong. We never figured out the cost-per-click<br />

piece of it. We got too buried in our legacy of cpm-based advertising and th<strong>at</strong>’s<br />

how we died. Or <strong>at</strong> least th<strong>at</strong>’s how the Excite piece of the business wasn’t as<br />

much as it could have been.<br />

By 1997 everybody was diversifying into portal str<strong>at</strong>egies, because nobody<br />

knew how to make money from search. Search was viewed as the traffic director<br />

to other more profitable businesses, when in reality, search was the<br />

business. Th<strong>at</strong> wasn’t obvious <strong>at</strong> the time.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> competitors did you worry about?<br />

Kraus: Early on you worry about the ones th<strong>at</strong> don’t m<strong>at</strong>ter, because you don’t<br />

know any better. Early on, as a search technology company, we worried about<br />

Verity, PLS, Open Text. We were too young to realize th<strong>at</strong> existing companies’<br />

biggest problem is legacy. Period. They can’t focus on new businesses because<br />

they’ve got to manage their old ones. And so when we moved to web search, it<br />

was never clear to us th<strong>at</strong> Verity, PLS, and Open Text wouldn’t actually go and<br />

do this. But they couldn’t because they were servicing all their existing businesses<br />

and could never invest enough in this new kind of business.<br />

We worried about Yahoo, Lycos, and Infoseek the most when we started<br />

getting into the web search business, for sure. There were some rumors of<br />

entries from big companies, like MCI. Was AT&T going to play in this space?<br />

Wh<strong>at</strong> was AOL going to do?<br />

Livingston: You felt there was the thre<strong>at</strong> of the larger companies with deep<br />

pockets getting into the space?<br />

Kraus: Right, and they never did. When Microsoft made its buyout offer for<br />

Excite in l<strong>at</strong>e 1995, they offered about $70 million. We’d just launched in<br />

October ’95 and they’re offering $70 million. We said no, and we told them the<br />

number needed to be more like $100 million. And apparently wh<strong>at</strong> happened

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