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Trott: Initially it was less than a million dollars—so angel money, really.<br />

Mena Trott 409<br />

Livingston: So you now had the money to hire some people and get an office.<br />

Wh<strong>at</strong> were some of the first things you did?<br />

Trott: Nothing, th<strong>at</strong>’s the funny thing. We tre<strong>at</strong>ed the money like it was our<br />

own. We were so concerned about it. Suddenly we had this money and we<br />

couldn’t spend it all because, if we spent it all, we’d need more, and then we’d<br />

need more and then we’d have zero ownership of our company. Th<strong>at</strong> terrified us.<br />

As a result, we didn’t hire fast enough and we weren’t in an office. We had<br />

closed in April, but we didn’t move into an office until August. We had one<br />

employee who was working out of his house in San Jose, one in New York, and<br />

our support person was in Minnesota. It was like a remote office and nothing<br />

was really changing because we thought, “We can’t spend this money.”<br />

We bought oper<strong>at</strong>ions stuff for TypePad—servers, etc.—and we had payroll<br />

for the first time. Five people on payroll. Five people is a lot more than zero.<br />

And Ben and I were never really taking a salary other than wh<strong>at</strong> we earned<br />

from consulting, which was just kind of recycling itself.<br />

We were the complete opposite of the things th<strong>at</strong> typified the Bubble. We<br />

saw the Bubble, and we saw people spending too much money on things th<strong>at</strong><br />

didn’t m<strong>at</strong>ter. Then you have us, who didn’t even want to buy a refriger<strong>at</strong>or for<br />

the office because it cost $150. I think th<strong>at</strong> there’s a middle road th<strong>at</strong>’s a lot<br />

better.<br />

Livingston: Why did you set yourself up as an LLC instead of a C corpor<strong>at</strong>ion?<br />

Trott: Because we read th<strong>at</strong> LLCs can’t take investments. So we figured, if we<br />

formed an LLC, we couldn’t have stockholders. But then, you can always<br />

change from an LLC to a C corp. It’s a funny kind of stupid thing th<strong>at</strong> we did,<br />

like, “Let’s form a company th<strong>at</strong> can’t take investors,” not realizing th<strong>at</strong> you can<br />

just change the structure of your company. We were looking <strong>at</strong> the California<br />

incorpor<strong>at</strong>ion book, and we said, “We have to figure out if we’re going to be a<br />

partnership, a sole proprietary, a C corp., or an LLC.” And we were looking <strong>at</strong><br />

the checklist and we saw “can’t take money,” so we said, “Let’s do th<strong>at</strong> one.” It’s<br />

amazing. For anyone who is starting a company, it’s so hard.<br />

Ben and I were 24, and where are you supposed to learn this stuff? We got<br />

the Nolo book on incorpor<strong>at</strong>ing and we looked online, but it’s so hard.<br />

We owe a lot to Barak. He became a board member (for Neoteny) after the<br />

investment, and he was the best board member because not only did he help us<br />

figure out the business str<strong>at</strong>egy, but he also helped us figure out how to get an<br />

office, how to get insurance, how to wire our office and do the business stuff.<br />

Th<strong>at</strong>’s one of the reasons we made him CEO—because he was so willing to do<br />

everything th<strong>at</strong> we needed and he wasn’t an investor who would just give us<br />

money and check on us every quarter.<br />

He did allow us to make mistakes, however. For example, he let us not ramp<br />

up as fast as we could because we had to learn for ourselves th<strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> was not<br />

the best idea. Another example was when we went to look <strong>at</strong> offices. Barak<br />

went, because Ben was <strong>at</strong> home working. We’d look <strong>at</strong> offices th<strong>at</strong> had like 10 or

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