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412 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

th<strong>at</strong> we didn’t want people to make a living off of Movable Type; it’s just th<strong>at</strong>, if<br />

we weren’t making a living, we didn’t think th<strong>at</strong> other people should be making<br />

money.<br />

Some people say th<strong>at</strong>’s not a good <strong>at</strong>titude, but it was the <strong>at</strong>titude th<strong>at</strong> kept<br />

us functioning as a business. Th<strong>at</strong>’s some advice for people: don’t apologize for<br />

wanting to be a company. You see so many people who say, “Oh, we won’t<br />

charge; things should be free.” It’s like you don’t think you’re worth being paid<br />

for your time. I feel even more strongly about this when it’s an entire company<br />

r<strong>at</strong>her than just me and Ben. We can be kind of the fools th<strong>at</strong> will work for free,<br />

but I’m not going to make other people suffer for th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

With Movable Type, we said, “Why should businesses get this for free? Why<br />

should we get taken advantage of?” There were so many people th<strong>at</strong> were setting<br />

up hosted services using Movable Type, and they would charge users<br />

money. So we set up these limit<strong>at</strong>ions with the licensing saying th<strong>at</strong> you can<br />

only have x number of blogs and x number of authors. We just wanted to target<br />

the people who were making money off the software th<strong>at</strong> way. But we applied it<br />

to personal users too much; we said personal users couldn’t have this and<br />

people freaked out. They went crazy. Our biggest mistake was th<strong>at</strong> it shouldn’t<br />

have been across the board.<br />

When we changed the licensing, people flipped out. They were like, “These<br />

are the people th<strong>at</strong> screwed you. We supported you for all these years.” It was<br />

really hard for us because we had always been the darlings in the industry.<br />

We never tried to be th<strong>at</strong>, but people just thought we did no wrong. And we<br />

didn’t do any wrong. I don’t think we did wrong with th<strong>at</strong>, but, as soon as you<br />

charge for something, it changes people’s impression. So we suddenly became<br />

evil because we wanted to make some money from our product. It’s unfortun<strong>at</strong>e<br />

because it’s kind of the mindset th<strong>at</strong> people have on the Internet—th<strong>at</strong><br />

things shouldn’t cost money. But you have to pay people and pay the rent.<br />

It’s really complic<strong>at</strong>ed, and I think th<strong>at</strong> most people who aren’t in our situ<strong>at</strong>ion<br />

can’t really pass accur<strong>at</strong>e judgment. I remember when Ev [Williams] sold<br />

Blogger to Google, and people were like, “Ev sold out!” We thought, “OK, he<br />

started a business and he sold his business.” You shouldn’t be ashamed of wanting<br />

to be a successful business. Of course, you shouldn’t do things th<strong>at</strong> are<br />

unethical, and we have never done anything unethical.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> competitors did you worry about most?<br />

Trott: We never really obsessed about it. We were always worried about<br />

Blogger. I think we always knew th<strong>at</strong> Yahoo or Microsoft would enter the space,<br />

and they did. When AOL Journals came out, I thought, “There were these big<br />

companies th<strong>at</strong> have entered the market and still haven’t done anything really<br />

to innov<strong>at</strong>e.”<br />

At Six Apart, we’re a little bit behind wh<strong>at</strong> our vision is because we’ve been<br />

talking about this stuff th<strong>at</strong> we’re finally getting to start to trickle out and shipping<br />

just now, even though we’ve been working on it for a year or two—like the<br />

Comet stuff we’ve been working on since day one of the founding of the company.<br />

Other than th<strong>at</strong>, there’s the open source software, the free software th<strong>at</strong><br />

competes with us.

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