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Craig Newmark 251<br />

Livingston: Going back to the time when you were still in your apartment, was<br />

there anything th<strong>at</strong> worried you?<br />

Newmark: I can’t think of anything. I may be forgetting a lot, but I think the<br />

only worry I can recall was th<strong>at</strong>, when you run your server on someone else’s<br />

machine, if there’s a problem in the middle of the night, you have an issue. Or,<br />

if you are running it <strong>at</strong> a service, and they are flaky and have weak customer<br />

service, th<strong>at</strong>’s another problem.<br />

Livingston: Did your site ever go down?<br />

Newmark: I think it did, but in a way th<strong>at</strong>’s reasonable and understandable.<br />

Once in a while, our site has problems this way, but the thing is th<strong>at</strong> we still<br />

manage to keep it up pretty well and keep it fast, which is hard because we’re in<br />

another surge of growth. We’re now getting <strong>at</strong> least five billion page views a<br />

month. We’re in 170 cities.<br />

Livingston: Back to how you got people to help you with this. Did people come<br />

to you?<br />

Newmark: Well, how can they help me run the site? We spoke about making it<br />

a nonprofit and th<strong>at</strong> made some sense, given my ignorance then. Now I realize<br />

there’s a lot of legal constraints in nonprofits. They’re meant to prevent various<br />

forms of corruption. The thing is, like a lot of laws like th<strong>at</strong>, people who are<br />

crooked always find ways around the laws, and so the constraints just make it<br />

more difficult for the honest people. We are very, very lucky we’re not a nonprofit.<br />

We have our own nonprofit, which is doing some really good things. I’m<br />

on the board there, but my gig is customer service.<br />

Livingston: When you first started, did you worry about spammers and other<br />

people trying to take advantage of your site?<br />

Newmark: We have a really good culture of trust on the site—of goodwill. You<br />

know, we’re finding th<strong>at</strong> pretty much everyone out there shares, more or less,<br />

the same moral compass as we do and as my personal one. People are good.<br />

There are some bad guys out there, but they are a very tiny minority and<br />

our community is self-policing. People want other people to play fair, and<br />

th<strong>at</strong> works. Th<strong>at</strong> does mean a certain amount of our time, including mine, but<br />

th<strong>at</strong>’s OK.<br />

Livingston: You set up a way for the community to regul<strong>at</strong>e the site, right?<br />

Newmark: Yes: flagging. Flagging works. By virtue of flagging, we’ve turned<br />

over control of our site, for the most part, on a day-to-day basis to the people<br />

who use the site. We need to figure out better ways of doing th<strong>at</strong>; th<strong>at</strong>’s still in<br />

process.<br />

Livingston: How did you first come up with the idea of flagging?<br />

Newmark: I forget. I think it was my customer service team, not me. I don’t<br />

recall, it was so long ago.<br />

Livingston: But it worked pretty well?

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