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294 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

Livingston: PARC was famous for overlooking the commercial value of things.<br />

Were you surprised th<strong>at</strong> they didn’t see the value of wh<strong>at</strong> you and John were<br />

working on?<br />

Geschke: I wasn’t so surprised by our experience with Interpress, because I<br />

had seen wh<strong>at</strong> had happened with all the other technologies th<strong>at</strong> preceded it.<br />

They never figured out a way to commercialize the Ethernet. They had managed<br />

to commercialize the original laser printer (it was called the 9700), but it<br />

was for mainframe computers; it replaced line printers. Line printers were the<br />

old printers th<strong>at</strong> used to be on mainframe computers, and they were big, noisy<br />

devices th<strong>at</strong> could only print text. The 9700 could print pages th<strong>at</strong> were more<br />

sophistic<strong>at</strong>ed. But it was mainframe printing, it wasn’t office printing, and it<br />

wasn’t focused around publishing and the graphic arts. If you look <strong>at</strong> a typical<br />

office memo coming out today, you would never have seen anything like th<strong>at</strong><br />

20 years ago. It would have been Courier or Elite typefaces on a typewriter. It’s<br />

all completely different now and people don’t even think about it. They just<br />

have expect<strong>at</strong>ions th<strong>at</strong> the text will look high-quality, th<strong>at</strong> it will be proportion<strong>at</strong>ely<br />

spaced, and the pages will contain illustr<strong>at</strong>ions and photographs.<br />

Livingston: We just take for granted wh<strong>at</strong> you guys cre<strong>at</strong>ed.<br />

Geschke: Th<strong>at</strong>’s wh<strong>at</strong>’s really cool. Th<strong>at</strong>’s when you know you’ve had an impact.<br />

I know I can speak for John on this too, but the biggest thrill is frankly not the<br />

financial success, it’s the ability to have an impact. Because we’re both engineers<br />

<strong>at</strong> heart and th<strong>at</strong>’s every engineer’s dream—to build something th<strong>at</strong><br />

millions of people will use.<br />

People with no training in the graphic arts could now develop m<strong>at</strong>erials th<strong>at</strong><br />

got a message across and did it more dram<strong>at</strong>ically. I remember very early on, I<br />

gave a talk in Chicago somewhere—some guy in a small brokerage business<br />

somehow convinced me to give a talk. He said, “We use your stuff, but we<br />

always print it in Courier (which is the typewriter typeface) because people<br />

who see it printed in a high-quality typeface think it’s old news.” You see, he was<br />

on a cusp of a change. Now people don’t think about it th<strong>at</strong> way, but in those<br />

days, if it didn’t come out in Courier, it must have gone to a printer and a typesetter<br />

and it must have taken 2 to 3 weeks to get prepared.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> surprised you most about the early days?<br />

Geschke: To me, the most surprising thing was how responsive people in the<br />

publishing industry were to accept and embrace change. After thinking about it<br />

l<strong>at</strong>er, I realized th<strong>at</strong> as I had listened to my dad talk about his profession—and<br />

he of course told me never to go into the printing business—it was because he<br />

recognized intuitively th<strong>at</strong> change had to happen in th<strong>at</strong> industry. He wasn’t<br />

sure where it was coming from but he knew it wasn’t just doing wh<strong>at</strong> he did better<br />

or more efficiently. It was going to come from somewhere else. So I suspect<br />

it was a market th<strong>at</strong> was already looking for a solution and we provided it <strong>at</strong> the<br />

right time.<br />

The amount of printing has not decreased because of the “paperless office,”<br />

it’s increased. We’re the people (Adobe and the others we’ve partnered with)

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