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22 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

Livingston: You had a tagline in the body of the email encouraging email recipients<br />

to set up their own free Hotmail accounts. How did you come up with<br />

this?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: It was actually Jack’s idea to do th<strong>at</strong>. We ran it by our VCs just to make<br />

sure it was OK. When you alter somebody’s email, you’ve got to be very careful.<br />

You’re sending an email to a friend of yours, and we are kind of viol<strong>at</strong>ing the<br />

sanctity of th<strong>at</strong> email by putting in a tagline <strong>at</strong> the end of it th<strong>at</strong> says “This message<br />

has been sent from Hotmail. Get your free email <strong>at</strong> hotmail.com.”<br />

So we asked Tim if it was OK th<strong>at</strong> we did this. We said, “We don’t want to be<br />

perceived as the evil company by altering their email.” And he said, “Absolutely,<br />

you should do it.”<br />

And the next thing we know, he claims th<strong>at</strong> this idea was his. He’s given a<br />

number of interviews literally claiming th<strong>at</strong> he was the f<strong>at</strong>her of web-based<br />

email—without him it would not have happened. I can’t believe he’s just taken<br />

credit for everything—including the tagline (which l<strong>at</strong>er became known as the<br />

classic example of viral marketing). He bl<strong>at</strong>antly claims this <strong>at</strong> conferences,<br />

which I don’t think is right.<br />

Livingston: He claimed th<strong>at</strong> web-based email was his idea?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: Th<strong>at</strong> it was our idea, but without them, it would not have happened and<br />

th<strong>at</strong> we would have done JavaSoft. Their version is th<strong>at</strong> “we told them to do<br />

web-based email <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> [first] meeting.” Why would they tell us to do webbased<br />

email?<br />

Livingston: You grew Hotmail’s user base faster than any other company in history<br />

<strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time. Do you believe it was more because you had a gre<strong>at</strong> product<br />

or you had a good PR campaign?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: Th<strong>at</strong>’s one thing about the Internet: if you have something th<strong>at</strong>’s good,<br />

it spreads by word of mouth and like wildfire. You just have to hire a small PR<br />

firm and do it.<br />

Livingston: Had you always planned for Hotmail to be free for users?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: Yes.<br />

Livingston: How did you convince people you could make money from targeted<br />

advertising? Th<strong>at</strong> was so novel <strong>at</strong> the time.<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: It was novel, but <strong>at</strong> the same time it wasn’t novel, because Yahoo had<br />

gotten funding (and l<strong>at</strong>er went public) on th<strong>at</strong> basis. Their whole concept was<br />

to grow by advertising, even though it was a directory, because people would<br />

pay for advertising.<br />

Our whole idea was th<strong>at</strong>, if page impressions are a commodity th<strong>at</strong> can be<br />

sold, can be monetized, then we would gener<strong>at</strong>e far gre<strong>at</strong>er page impression<br />

than they were able to because you interact a lot more when you do email. You<br />

click on something and a page comes up and you click on something and<br />

another page comes up. So we were thinking of the number of pages and the<br />

number of page impressions as the monetizable quantity. In our estim<strong>at</strong>e, we

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