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Paul Buchheit 163<br />

Buchheit: It’s the same concept. Wh<strong>at</strong> I wrote was just a throwaway prototype,<br />

but it got people thinking because it proved th<strong>at</strong> it was possible, and th<strong>at</strong> it<br />

wasn’t too hard because I was able to do it in less than a day. After th<strong>at</strong>, other<br />

people took over and did all the hard work of making it into a real product.<br />

Livingston: You have done two groundbreaking things <strong>at</strong> Google.<br />

Buchheit: Probably. I’ve done a lot of random things. Mostly wh<strong>at</strong> I do doesn’t<br />

turn into anything, because I like to just try out ideas and a lot of them don’t go<br />

anywhere.<br />

Livingston: So you work on Gmail for a day, you can see you’re on to something—then<br />

wh<strong>at</strong> happened?<br />

Buchheit: For quite a while, it was just myself; and then another person,<br />

Sanjeev Singh, started working on it. But switching projects here, especially<br />

back then, wasn’t easy. It wasn’t like one day, you’re suddenly on a new project.<br />

So he still ended up spending a lot of his time on enterprise search, which he<br />

was working on <strong>at</strong> the time. It was quite a while before Sanjeev could really<br />

spend most of his time on Gmail. So it was pretty slow for a long time.<br />

It was mostly just me; then me and Sanjeev; then l<strong>at</strong>er on another person,<br />

Jing Lim, started. It was a very slow kind of progression. And people were still a<br />

little bit uncertain about the whole idea of doing something as different as<br />

email.<br />

Livingston: When was the moment when you said, “This is big and we’re going<br />

to launch this”?<br />

Buchheit: Several days after launch! It was a big project. Sometimes it seemed<br />

as though we weren’t ever going to make it out.<br />

Livingston: Tell me about some of the most challenging parts.<br />

Buchheit: There’s a lot th<strong>at</strong> was challenging about it, just because it’s very big,<br />

for one thing. We gave everyone a gigabyte of storage to start with. At the time,<br />

the standard was around 2 or 4 megabytes.<br />

A lot of people actually didn’t think th<strong>at</strong> was real. They thought it was a<br />

joke—partially because we launched on April 1.<br />

They also thought it wasn’t possible. It can be a little bit tricky, because it’s<br />

a lot of d<strong>at</strong>a if you actually do the m<strong>at</strong>h: you have millions of users and they all<br />

have a lot of d<strong>at</strong>a, and then, to make the system really reliable, you need to keep<br />

several copies of the d<strong>at</strong>a, backups and everything like th<strong>at</strong>. It requires a lot of<br />

research. It’s a lot of machines and a lot of systems to make th<strong>at</strong> all work without<br />

requiring an army of people to maintain the system and keep it running.<br />

There’s a very complic<strong>at</strong>ed system problem there.<br />

We were also doing a lot of things th<strong>at</strong> were new to Google. And I guess this<br />

is one difference between a regular startup and starting within Google—I think<br />

it’s a little bit different now, but <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time there was still this vision th<strong>at</strong>, “We<br />

only do web search.” Now we do lots of ne<strong>at</strong> products th<strong>at</strong> go beyond th<strong>at</strong>, but<br />

<strong>at</strong> the time, a lot of people inside the company were sort of unsure. The idea of<br />

doing this product th<strong>at</strong> was receiving all the email—and we had to store the<br />

email, which is a different systems problem, really, from web search, because

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