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Sabeer Bh<strong>at</strong>ia 25<br />

sister would say, “My friend taught me this is how you get to Hotmail, so th<strong>at</strong>’s<br />

wh<strong>at</strong> I’ve been doing.” The usage p<strong>at</strong>terns of how people used the Internet<br />

were baffling to us.<br />

Livingston: Who were you most nervous about from a competitive standpoint?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: Anybody in the Internet space. We were most nervous about companies<br />

like Netscape, because Netscape was building email servers and they<br />

would provide web-based access to the servers. Their whole point was th<strong>at</strong> they<br />

provided web-based management to servers th<strong>at</strong> you could set up. So, as system<br />

administr<strong>at</strong>ors, you could check to see how many had people signed up or<br />

wh<strong>at</strong>ever, but they were not offering web-based mail to people.<br />

The good news was th<strong>at</strong> a lot of people said, “I’m not sure email is a<br />

browser-based product. Email is best done on an email client like Outlook<br />

Express. It doesn’t belong in the browser.” Th<strong>at</strong>’s wh<strong>at</strong> Jerry Yang said <strong>at</strong> Yahoo.<br />

We were like, “Gre<strong>at</strong>!” So we had no competition from them for the first 8<br />

months or so, till we reached a certain point and then they had no choice but to<br />

buy a company.<br />

I heard th<strong>at</strong> Yahoo gave up the opportunity to buy Google for $1,000,000—<br />

th<strong>at</strong> <strong>at</strong> one point, Google would have been happy to be sold to them for a million<br />

bucks.<br />

Livingston: Yahoo ultim<strong>at</strong>ely wound up buying Rocketmail. They were your<br />

first real competitor, right? Tell me about them.<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: They were our partners. We needed to have a directory of users th<strong>at</strong><br />

people could search and send email to. Instead of building our own directory,<br />

we partnered with Rocketmail. We said, “OK, we’ll use your directory on our<br />

website and we’ll send you our registr<strong>at</strong>ion d<strong>at</strong>a so you could register these people’s<br />

email accounts.” We didn’t want to build a directory just for people to<br />

search for email. All they had was a directory, th<strong>at</strong>’s wh<strong>at</strong> they specialized in,<br />

th<strong>at</strong> was their business.<br />

They found out how many registr<strong>at</strong>ions we were sending them daily—they<br />

saw our growth from hundreds to thousands to tens of thousands, and th<strong>at</strong>’s<br />

when they said, “Even we ourselves cannot get these kinds of registr<strong>at</strong>ions on<br />

our website. We should do email.” So they decided to do email and th<strong>at</strong>’s how<br />

they came up with Rocketmail.<br />

Livingston: Were you pissed?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: They are also funded by Draper Fisher Jurvetson. So Draper was seeing<br />

two of its own companies cre<strong>at</strong>e two different email systems.<br />

We felt bad th<strong>at</strong> they had done it, but we couldn’t go to Draper and say anything.<br />

It was a decision th<strong>at</strong> the company took, th<strong>at</strong>’s wh<strong>at</strong> DFJ told us, and we<br />

were pissed <strong>at</strong> them, but <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time we knew we had to not share too much<br />

inform<strong>at</strong>ion with DFJ as well.<br />

Livingston: So you didn’t have a showdown with Rocketmail?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: We just scrapped our partnership and decided, “OK, competition is<br />

competition.”

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