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Ron Gruner 435<br />

Of course, we had some really good breaks. The Web was a huge one. When<br />

th<strong>at</strong> developed, starting in ’95, we jumped right on th<strong>at</strong>. People were saying,<br />

“Wh<strong>at</strong> are you going to do? You’re all telephone-based technology, and here’s<br />

this thing called the Internet.” So we thought, “It’s just another technology.”<br />

Having learned from Alliant about not moving quickly enough, we were on it<br />

right away.<br />

Campbell’s Soup, for example, was one of our earliest clients, and the first<br />

time they had a corpor<strong>at</strong>e website was through us. If you look back <strong>at</strong> their<br />

annual report in, I think, ’95, they said, “If you would like shareholder inform<strong>at</strong>ion,<br />

please call 1-800-XXX-SOUP”—th<strong>at</strong> was their Shareholder Direct line—<br />

“or visit our website <strong>at</strong> www.shareholder.com/campbell.”<br />

So we started the web service and took it a day <strong>at</strong> a time, built the business<br />

up. We focused very strongly on client s<strong>at</strong>isfaction. We’d do everything it took<br />

to keep a client happy. And we focused on the bigger clients.<br />

Livingston: The Internet was just making a splash in corpor<strong>at</strong>e America. Was it<br />

hard to convince big companies to embrace the Internet?<br />

Gruner: It really wasn’t too hard. The initial costs were very low. We would go<br />

in and say, “Look, we are investor rel<strong>at</strong>ions specialists. We know this area very<br />

well and we know you have a web development team. But this is a very specialized<br />

area. If you want to do this well, you need real-time SEC feeds and stock<br />

quotes. When you put up a news release, it needs to be done”—even back<br />

then—“in a few hours. You can’t wait a few days to put a news release up.” So<br />

th<strong>at</strong> wasn’t too hard to sell.<br />

Livingston: They could outsource all these things to Shareholder.com?<br />

Gruner: Th<strong>at</strong>’s right. In the ’80s and early ’90s, the investor rel<strong>at</strong>ions officer<br />

was really an underappreci<strong>at</strong>ed asset. They were understaffed and underbudgeted.<br />

So we would go in and say, “Our job is to make your life easier. You send<br />

us the inform<strong>at</strong>ion; we’ll take care of it.” And we told them discreetly, “If anything<br />

gets screwed up, we take the bullet. We’re here to help you.”<br />

Then we just kept adding functionality and functionality. And the government<br />

helped us too. We had three big breaks with the SEC.<br />

The first was in the early ’90s when the SEC put out a comfort letter saying<br />

altern<strong>at</strong>ives to the printed quarterly report should be considered, including<br />

800-based telephone numbers. Th<strong>at</strong>’s essentially like the SEC jumping up and<br />

saying, “Go, go, go!” Th<strong>at</strong>’s about as aggressive as they get. We had asked for a<br />

comfort letter because some of the clients were saying, “We don’t even know<br />

wh<strong>at</strong> the SEC says about this.” And the SEC said, “We won’t say ‘yes’ or ‘no,’<br />

but we think it’s an interesting idea.”<br />

Regul<strong>at</strong>ion FD came along in 2000. It had pros and cons, but, for us, it<br />

opened things up tremendously. And then, of course, Sarbanes-Oxley came out<br />

a few years ago. All of those things basically said th<strong>at</strong> it’s much more important<br />

to communic<strong>at</strong>e with shareholders uniformly and democr<strong>at</strong>ically. Because,<br />

believe me, even when I was <strong>at</strong> Alliant, and in the early ’90s, it was very<br />

exclusionary—who could <strong>at</strong>tend conference calls, for example.

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