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334 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

will only have to listen to their boss. For keeping to deadlines, the programmers<br />

won’t have to do th<strong>at</strong>; we’ll hire project managers to keep the deadlines.” And<br />

then they hired these people who, still to this day, I have never figured out wh<strong>at</strong><br />

they were supposed to do. They were called “client services.” They weren’t the<br />

project managers. I think they were supposed to keep the customer happy.<br />

The new management hired all these people but, if you asked, “Who’s<br />

responsible for making sure th<strong>at</strong> this project, overall, makes money for the<br />

company and who has an incentive to ensure th<strong>at</strong> it’s done on time and the customer<br />

pays?” the answer was essentially, “Nobody.” You had to go way up the<br />

management chain to find somebody who had P&L responsibility. So I told<br />

them th<strong>at</strong> they were taking an enormous risk, th<strong>at</strong> they had no idea wh<strong>at</strong> the<br />

consequences were going to be.<br />

Their response was, “Shut up, Greenspun. You’re injuring our self-esteem.<br />

This is how good companies like IBM do it. You don’t know anything.”<br />

They tried to make everything as much like IBM as possible. They were<br />

very conventionally minded. The problem with doing th<strong>at</strong> is th<strong>at</strong> those niches<br />

are occupied. If you have bland, boring marketing m<strong>at</strong>erials just like IBM and<br />

you have very high prices and slow delivery, there is a niche for th<strong>at</strong> product<br />

and it’s occupied. IBM is there. The customer doesn’t need you. They just go to<br />

IBM Global Services, if th<strong>at</strong>’s wh<strong>at</strong> they want, or their own IT department, for<br />

God’s sake.<br />

In the case of open source software, it can fall apart quickly. If you become<br />

slower and more expensive and more mired in bureaucracy than the customer’s<br />

own IT department, then they’ll just say, “We have lazy, ineffective, slowmoving<br />

programmers right here in our back office. We don’t need you.”<br />

So it was falling apart very quickly financially; I could tell th<strong>at</strong>. The board<br />

meetings got more acrimonious. They actually precipit<strong>at</strong>ed the ultim<strong>at</strong>e fight.<br />

They said, “Look, we’re going to kick you off the board and sue you for injuring<br />

our self-esteem. You better talk to a lawyer.”<br />

Livingston: Didn’t you also insult them by describing publicly wh<strong>at</strong> it was like<br />

to have VCs run your company?<br />

Greenspun: Only after they sued me. I said it was like w<strong>at</strong>ching a kindergarten<br />

class get into a Boeing 747 and flip all the switches and try to figure out why it<br />

won’t take off. Th<strong>at</strong> was before I got my pilot’s license. Now I know how apt<br />

it was.<br />

So I talked to my friend Doug, a gre<strong>at</strong> lawyer. He said, “You need to talk to<br />

my friend Sam Mawn-Mahlau <strong>at</strong> Edwards and Angell and figure out wh<strong>at</strong> to do.<br />

Sam looked <strong>at</strong> all the deal documents and said, “You own this company. You are<br />

a majority shareholder.”<br />

I said, “But these guys told me th<strong>at</strong> I have no power because they control<br />

the board, three to two, and it doesn’t m<strong>at</strong>ter wh<strong>at</strong> anyone else says.”<br />

He said, “Yes, but the shareholders elect the board. Just have a shareholders’<br />

meeting and elect yourself and your cofounders (or whoever else you<br />

want) to the board, and these guys will be back to their two board se<strong>at</strong>s, which<br />

is wh<strong>at</strong> they bargained for. They have a minority investment. They bargained

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