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392 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

Currier: I put one foot in front of the other. I was sleeping 4 hours a night with<br />

the help of NyQuil, and then I’d just keep thinking, keep trying to find the language<br />

and find new employees, trying to meet the VC who would understand<br />

my vision and back me. I met with 43 VCs.<br />

Livingston: Since you were a VC, could you speak their language better than<br />

most technology founders?<br />

Currier: I remember saying to them, “Look, in 4 years, we’ll be doing $18 million<br />

in revenue with $4.5 million of profit. After th<strong>at</strong> the sky’s the limit. I’m an<br />

ex-venture guy; I’m telling you the truth. We can get to $18 million in year 4,<br />

and 30 times $4 million is a $120 million valu<strong>at</strong>ion for the company <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time.<br />

You’ll get 20 times your money.”<br />

They all told me $18 million wasn’t interesting. And I’d say, “But most<br />

people will tell you $50 million, and you know they’re lying. I’m already discounting<br />

it because I’m a venture guy just like you are.” And they’d say, “Yeah,<br />

but $18 million just isn’t interesting.”<br />

So I changed my spreadsheet to say $50 million. And they said, “OK, th<strong>at</strong>’s<br />

pretty interesting.”<br />

Livingston: Can you think of another example where you had to pull off a trick<br />

to advance?<br />

Currier: Well, of course you sometimes have to exagger<strong>at</strong>e. If you think there<br />

are three places where you can get a lease, then you just say you have a lease so<br />

you can move to the next step. You’ve got to say you are a step ahead of where<br />

you actually are to move to the step th<strong>at</strong> you want to be <strong>at</strong>.<br />

To move to step two, people have to believe th<strong>at</strong> you’re already <strong>at</strong> step two<br />

so there’s no risk for them. Because they don’t want to take on your risk—you<br />

have to take it all on. And then you have to take on the risk of fibbing.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> would you tell someone who was considering starting a<br />

startup?<br />

Currier: Th<strong>at</strong> it is incredibly painful and it will take over your life. If you care<br />

about it and if you have any chance of succeeding, you will stop being present<br />

for the softer things in life like your family, friends, or d<strong>at</strong>ing life. And when you<br />

are there with them, you’re not really there with them; you’re thinking about<br />

this thing because you’re cre<strong>at</strong>ing it, and it takes th<strong>at</strong> amount of passion to make<br />

it work.<br />

Livingston: Did this ever hurt any of your rel<strong>at</strong>ionships?<br />

Currier: I almost didn’t marry my wife. She and I started d<strong>at</strong>ing about 2 months<br />

before I came up with the idea, so she hasn’t really known me without it. I<br />

couldn’t figure out if we should get married, but then I hired a new VP of engineering<br />

and he transformed my life. Because I could trust him to do a lot of<br />

important work, he gave me bre<strong>at</strong>hing room to actually feel something. Four<br />

months after I hired him, I proposed and we got married. We now have four<br />

gre<strong>at</strong> kids. I almost really blew it; the whole haze of the thing made it unclear.

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