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396 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

had gotten much worse. Netscape kept sliding further and further in the<br />

market. At this point, they had something like 5 percent market share. This is<br />

post-AOL, post–browser war and all th<strong>at</strong>. Things got a lot more desper<strong>at</strong>e when<br />

AOL tanked and started to demand more revenue from the browser. They<br />

wanted a return on investment, and they’d bought Netscape for about $4 billion.<br />

So the browser started to turn into nothing more than a vehicle to drive<br />

people to Netscape.com. There were search buttons everywhere, advertisements<br />

everywhere. It was a mess. The culture didn’t focus on users. It was<br />

painful to be working there.<br />

Firefox was more a response to our experience <strong>at</strong> Netscape than to the<br />

dominant browser, Internet Explorer. Explorer had basically been abandoned<br />

<strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> point; in 2001, Microsoft disbanded the IE team. So we started Firefox<br />

as a way to work on the browser th<strong>at</strong> we knew we could make if we weren’t<br />

being controlled by marketing, sales, and all these other influences inside<br />

Netscape. It started off with just three or four of us—the people who had<br />

always been fighting these b<strong>at</strong>tles within Netscape to make the right decisions<br />

for users.<br />

For example, we wanted to include pop-up blocking in Netscape 7. It would<br />

have been the first mainstream browser to include pop-up blocking. The<br />

Mozilla folks had all the code ready, but Netscape wouldn’t include it because<br />

Netscape.com had a pop-up ad. Those kinds of decisions were painful, and it<br />

was frustr<strong>at</strong>ing to have our names on the product th<strong>at</strong> was getting released. So<br />

we started a project called Phoenix, which was supposed to be an allusion to the<br />

mythical bird th<strong>at</strong> is reborn from its own ashes. It was like the project was being<br />

reborn from the ashes of Netscape.<br />

Livingston: Who was involved?<br />

Ross: David Hy<strong>at</strong>t, Joe Hewitt—who is now my partner on a new startup,<br />

Parakey—and I were on the development side, with Brian Ryner and Asa<br />

Dotzler providing build and QA support. The project was like an afterthought<br />

for the first 6 months to a year, something we worked on <strong>at</strong> Denny’s after work.<br />

I went back home to Miami, and we worked on it online for a while.<br />

Phoenix was basically a fork of the Mozilla code base th<strong>at</strong> we controlled. We<br />

closed off access to the code, because we felt it was impossible to cre<strong>at</strong>e anything<br />

consumer-oriented when you had a thousand Netscape people in search<br />

of revenue and a thousand open source geeks who shunned big business trying<br />

to reach consensus. We just wanted to close it off and do wh<strong>at</strong> we thought was<br />

the right thing. We went through a couple name changes, Mozilla offered us<br />

more support, and th<strong>at</strong>’s kind of how it all got started.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> were some of the other names?<br />

Ross: It started off as Phoenix, and we quickly encountered trademark issues. It<br />

was just the three of us, we weren’t lawyers, and we were broke, so <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> point<br />

we probably would have done anything someone asked of us. In this case,<br />

Phoenix Technologies complained because they had some kind of web browser,<br />

too. We renamed it Firebird, because it’s the same imagery, but there was an

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