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214 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

There was one investor who I think really wanted to run the company. He<br />

had just sold his own startup, and he was pretty young. It was hard for him to<br />

just be a passive investor. For a while he actually came to work for us, as a VP.<br />

You know, in retrospect I think the big problem with our investors was th<strong>at</strong><br />

we weren’t forceful enough with them. I think investors like to be bossed<br />

around, like horses. It reassures them when you’re in control. But these guys<br />

were much older than us and had given us huge sums of their money, so it was<br />

hard for us to boss them around.<br />

Livingston: So now you have Fred on board and you are becoming more legitim<strong>at</strong>e.<br />

Wh<strong>at</strong> did you do next?<br />

Graham: Soon after we got Fred, we raised more money. I don’t remember<br />

exactly how much—maybe $800,000. A lot more money than we ever had<br />

before. We really shifted gears <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> point. Up till then, we had been oper<strong>at</strong>ing<br />

out of an apartment. In the very beginning, we oper<strong>at</strong>ed out of Robert’s<br />

apartment. Then after we got the $100,000 in th<strong>at</strong> first round from the angel<br />

investors, we rented the apartment upstairs from Robert’s. We had th<strong>at</strong> for<br />

about a year and then after we got Fred and we got this new round, we actually<br />

rented an office and started hiring people. We really started to look like a<br />

company.<br />

Livingston: Were you worried th<strong>at</strong> you didn’t look enough like a company<br />

before th<strong>at</strong>?<br />

Graham: We were big beneficiaries of th<strong>at</strong> rule th<strong>at</strong> on the Internet, nobody<br />

knows you’re a dog. We were just a bunch of guys in an apartment with computers.<br />

Nowadays more people accept th<strong>at</strong> startups look like th<strong>at</strong>, but not back<br />

in the mid-’90s. People still expected a company to have a real office. I think if<br />

some of these companies whose online stores were on our server could have<br />

actually seen the room th<strong>at</strong> the server was sitting in, they would have freaked.<br />

Thankfully they never did.<br />

If anybody ever did want to come and visit us, we pulled all kinds of tricks to<br />

make ourselves seem more legit. When th<strong>at</strong> first giant company wanted to buy<br />

us and sent people over to check us out, all we had in our so-called office was<br />

one computer. Robert and Trevor mostly worked <strong>at</strong> home or <strong>at</strong> school. So we<br />

borrowed a few more computers and stuck them on desks, so it would look like<br />

there was more going on.<br />

One of these Potemkin computers was Robert’s, from the apartment downstairs.<br />

And in the middle of this big visit from the company, Rtm comes upstairs<br />

boiling mad because he’s come home and discovered his computer’s missing.<br />

He’s like “Wh<strong>at</strong> have you done?” We said, “Shhh, shhh, we had to borrow it.<br />

We’re trying to look real. Don’t worry, we’re not using it. It’s not even plugged<br />

in.” He was really mad, but he let us keep using his computer as a prop for<br />

another hour until they left.<br />

Livingston: So you are growing as a company, you get a lot more funding, wh<strong>at</strong><br />

happened then?

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