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Joel Spolsky 355<br />

had an idea of some way th<strong>at</strong> we could modify FogBugz to be really useful to<br />

the investment community as something—I don’t remember wh<strong>at</strong>, but something<br />

th<strong>at</strong> the investment community could really use th<strong>at</strong>’s 5 percent different<br />

than FogBugz. And I kept thinking, “This is a huge distraction, and there’s not<br />

a big enough market. I just want to stick to our core competency, and I’m not<br />

interested in doing software for the financial markets.” He kept saying, “No, no.<br />

You’ve got to talk to this guy. You could make a lot of money off this. It would be<br />

gre<strong>at</strong>.”<br />

I kept thinking, “You know wh<strong>at</strong>, if it was a real board of directors and the<br />

VCs were bringing you these gre<strong>at</strong> ideas, you wouldn’t really have any choice<br />

but to say yes. And you’d keep getting distracted to do their pet projects th<strong>at</strong><br />

they dreamed up in the shower one night and they think might be a good idea,<br />

and you just don’t think it’s a good idea.” You don’t really have the ability to say<br />

no when you take those outside investments. It’s hard to tell your investors,<br />

“Let me just go in my own direction.”<br />

There are things th<strong>at</strong> we do, boy, th<strong>at</strong> I’m so thankful th<strong>at</strong> I don’t have to<br />

answer to anybody. I don’t think it’s possible to have priv<strong>at</strong>e offices for developers<br />

when you’re VC-funded, because it looks extravagant. I think th<strong>at</strong> it’s worth<br />

paying for in terms of the productivity you get. We spend an outrageous<br />

amount of money on quality office space th<strong>at</strong> other people don’t. Th<strong>at</strong> makes it<br />

easier to recruit and makes us more productive, I believe. But I’ve heard from<br />

people th<strong>at</strong> it would be considered completely unacceptable by the average VC<br />

to have priv<strong>at</strong>e office space—because it’s considered an extravagance of a successful<br />

company or something like th<strong>at</strong>. And, you know, “Why aren’t you all in<br />

the same room talking?”<br />

I’ve had th<strong>at</strong> argument whether it’s better to have priv<strong>at</strong>e offices for developers.<br />

I don’t want to have th<strong>at</strong> argument anymore. I don’t want to have to try<br />

to convince people anymore. Certain fe<strong>at</strong>ures—flying first class, Aeron chairs,<br />

double monitors, the best computers th<strong>at</strong> money can buy—these are things<br />

which might be considered extravagant, but it’s nice just to be able to do things<br />

the way th<strong>at</strong> we believe they should be done, without having to have a big argument<br />

educ<strong>at</strong>ing other people as to why we know how to develop software and<br />

they don’t.<br />

Livingston: Is there any advice you would give a programmer who wanted to<br />

start a startup who wants to avoid having to take any outside investment?<br />

Spolsky: It’s totally possible. I would recommend th<strong>at</strong> you cre<strong>at</strong>e a weblog and<br />

have millions of readers every month from around the world th<strong>at</strong> read it. Th<strong>at</strong>’s<br />

not really necessarily followable. Step two is a little bit hard. I think it’s Larry<br />

Wall who used to have this saying about Perl th<strong>at</strong>, “Well, if you don’t like it, just<br />

make your own language and then make it popular.” Th<strong>at</strong> was his way of refuting<br />

any and all complaints about the Perl syntax or wh<strong>at</strong>ever.<br />

So the reason I’m saying this, even though it’s tongue-in-cheek, is th<strong>at</strong> we<br />

definitely got a lot of publicity—wh<strong>at</strong> a traditional company would call PR—<br />

through Joel on Software. And th<strong>at</strong> caused us to get an enormous number of<br />

initial customers. After th<strong>at</strong>, our products spread by word of mouth. Existing

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