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Evan Williams 123<br />

search company. So we brainstormed all these ideas maybe we could do with<br />

Google and we went down there, and it turned out th<strong>at</strong> we were meeting with<br />

their corpor<strong>at</strong>e development people—meaning the people who buy companies.<br />

We started talking about ideas and within the first 5 minutes they said, “Yeah,<br />

there’re lots of ideas, but it’s hard for someone like us to really partner with<br />

someone so small as you; why don’t you just come here and do all th<strong>at</strong> stuff?” So<br />

we were like, “Oh, th<strong>at</strong>’s interesting.” (We tried to play it cool.)<br />

I had had one or two other convers<strong>at</strong>ions with possible acquirers. One was<br />

Lycos back in 2001, which would have been terrible—though it would have<br />

made a lot of sense for us because they had Tripod and Angelfire (two of the<br />

biggest publishing sites th<strong>at</strong> there were). But they didn’t have any money for<br />

th<strong>at</strong> area, so th<strong>at</strong> didn’t go anywhere.<br />

Wh<strong>at</strong> Google said was, “Would you consider being acquired?” And we said,<br />

“Well, we’ve talked to people, but Google’s never asked before.” Like everyone<br />

else, we thought very highly of Google, and we said, “Let’s talk about it.”<br />

Four months l<strong>at</strong>er, we were sitting in Google.<br />

Mind you, it wasn’t an easy decision. I struggled hard deciding if going to<br />

Google was the right thing to do. We weren’t desper<strong>at</strong>e. We actually had a term<br />

sheet on the table for $1 million in investment from Joi Ito’s Neoteny (who<br />

ended up investing in Six Apart). And after 4 years of pouring my heart into<br />

Blogger, I saw a lot of risk in giving up control.<br />

Eventually I decided Google was right. I really thought we could do huge<br />

things <strong>at</strong> this point, and Google had done bigger things than most, so I wanted<br />

to get in there and learn and get those resources.<br />

Livingston: At wh<strong>at</strong> point did you most want to quit?<br />

Williams: There were a lot of points in 2001 th<strong>at</strong> I seriously considered quitting.<br />

Everybody I knew just thought I was crazy. And I was getting neg<strong>at</strong>ive feedback<br />

on the Web; people who used to be my friends were posting neg<strong>at</strong>ive things<br />

about me. We’d gotten enough press <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> point . . . the Industry Standard,<br />

which was the bible of the dot-com era, had this annual list, the Net 21, titled<br />

something like, “The 21 people who had made lemonade out of lemons,” and I<br />

was one of them. It was pretty cool, but the title for me was “The Idealist”<br />

because I hadn’t sold out. Like I had a chance to have riches and I didn’t.<br />

Someone took th<strong>at</strong> and wrote a parody: “The Egoist.” Because there was a<br />

story—not really on the surface, but very clearly underne<strong>at</strong>h the community<br />

th<strong>at</strong> I was previously a part of—th<strong>at</strong> was a very neg<strong>at</strong>ive story about wh<strong>at</strong> happened<br />

in the last days of Pyra, because all those people left and they weren’t<br />

very happy (completely understandably).<br />

For the most part, the old Pyra employees were cool with it l<strong>at</strong>er. But,<br />

during 2001, these stories got out th<strong>at</strong> I took over this company and kicked<br />

everyone out and was just this terrible guy. Th<strong>at</strong> was the worst part.<br />

And I was writing this service th<strong>at</strong> was free and thousands of people used it,<br />

and all I heard were the complaints when it wasn’t working. So for many reasons<br />

it was bad. I don’t know how close I came to quitting. I don’t think I was<br />

terribly close, even though I should have been. I was always hallucinogenically

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