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370 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> other things did your customers misunderstand about<br />

TripAdvisor, since it was the only one of its kind?<br />

Kaufer: I don’t know th<strong>at</strong> they misunderstood too much. Today, user reviews are<br />

in many spaces a m<strong>at</strong>ter of course. Amazon has done a tremendous job turning<br />

th<strong>at</strong> into a significant competitive advantage. In 2001 or 2000, Yahoo wanted to<br />

get more than (I’m making up the numbers) $20 million dollars for a 3-year<br />

Travelocity contract; they wanted to get $40 million dollars. They wanted to sell<br />

a sponsorship to Carnival Cruise Lines for a million dollars. They wanted to<br />

monetize their existing travel channel as opposed to improve the content by<br />

licensing with TripAdvisor.<br />

It wasn’t until around 2004 th<strong>at</strong> we looked <strong>at</strong> Yahoo Travel as a competitor.<br />

It didn’t change in 2000; it didn’t change in 2001. I mean, the ads changed.<br />

They got better <strong>at</strong> extracting more money, I guess. But the actual content—the<br />

reason to go there—didn’t change for 3 years straight. It was gre<strong>at</strong> to have them<br />

as a competitor, in the sense of, you know, p<strong>at</strong>hetic. In 2004 they said, “Whoa!”<br />

and really made dram<strong>at</strong>ic improvements, and they built a much better product.<br />

Livingston: Did your writers edit the users’ feedback submissions?<br />

Kaufer: No.<br />

Livingston: How did you monitor the entries? Could people say, “This place<br />

sucked! Don’t go there.”<br />

Kaufer: Yes. “This place sucked. Don’t go there. Found r<strong>at</strong>s under the bed.”<br />

Very colorful comments on all sorts of stuff. We’d frequently get thre<strong>at</strong>ened by<br />

hotel oper<strong>at</strong>ors who were unhappy with the reviews th<strong>at</strong> were posted.<br />

We look <strong>at</strong> all the user reviews th<strong>at</strong> come in every day and make sure they<br />

meet our posting guidelines: Is it family friendly? Are you using h<strong>at</strong>e speech? Is<br />

there racist commentary? We will not edit the reviews <strong>at</strong> all. We’ll either reject<br />

a review or allow it to be posted.<br />

Sometimes we make mistakes and post stuff we shouldn’t. But those are the<br />

mistakes. We’ll let the horrible reviews come in and, obviously, post the gre<strong>at</strong><br />

reviews as well. If a hotel complains, “Hey, this person is lying about my property.<br />

They never stayed here. We never had any record of anyone staying here,<br />

blah, blah, blah,” we say, “We have a form on the site where the hotel management<br />

can post a response, so th<strong>at</strong> our visitors can see both sides of the story.”<br />

But we won’t take down a posting if a hotel owner complains. And we make no<br />

<strong>at</strong>tempt to verify the factual accuracy of a review. From our perspective, we<br />

have to be a little concerned about libel laws, and we fall under the sort of communic<strong>at</strong>ions<br />

act th<strong>at</strong> says we’re a conduit for consumers talking on the Web.<br />

You can’t sue AT&T for h<strong>at</strong>e speech said on the phone line th<strong>at</strong> they own. You<br />

can’t sue TripAdvisor for libelous st<strong>at</strong>ements th<strong>at</strong> appear on user reviews.<br />

Livingston: Can you think of one example where someone wrote a really<br />

sc<strong>at</strong>hing review, and the hotel got mad <strong>at</strong> TripAdvisor?<br />

Kaufer: There was a hotel owner in Italy who had their <strong>at</strong>torney draft a letter to<br />

us, actually all in Italian, saying essentially, “If you don’t take this review down,

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