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Brewster Kahle 279<br />

You can grow it instantly. You can hire 40 people in an afternoon, but they<br />

won’t necessarily work together well; they won’t understand wh<strong>at</strong>’s going on. It<br />

takes a while. So 6 months, 9 months goes by often just putting together all the<br />

pieces of infrastructure. With Alexa, it took a year to build the company to<br />

the extent where we could do our first real product release. WAIS was the same<br />

way. The first product release came a year after the start. It always seems like it<br />

should be much quicker than th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> can big corpor<strong>at</strong>ions do to preserve the startuppyness of the<br />

companies they acquire?<br />

Kahle: My first company was bought by AOL, and wh<strong>at</strong> AOL wanted to do was<br />

inject the Internet into its veins. So they went around and bought a bunch of<br />

companies. And I’d say wh<strong>at</strong> they’d bought the company for, if I had been more<br />

worldly, they actually achieved. It just wasn’t wh<strong>at</strong> I was looking for. I had built<br />

a little company. It made something like $3 million a year, which I thought was<br />

pretty gre<strong>at</strong>. I wanted it to get to $10 million or $20 million, but th<strong>at</strong> was a<br />

rounding error for AOL—it was noise. They needed us to help on the big<br />

issues. So I worked on str<strong>at</strong>egy for the company for 12 months—to get the company<br />

going in the Internet direction. And th<strong>at</strong>’s really wh<strong>at</strong> they wanted. It just<br />

wasn’t something th<strong>at</strong> I knew how to do. I really liked running something th<strong>at</strong> I<br />

knew how to run.<br />

When I did the startup th<strong>at</strong> was bought by Amazon, I said, “Leave us on our<br />

own. We’re smart and independent enough to be able to do good work th<strong>at</strong> will<br />

inject things from the side into your other organiz<strong>at</strong>ion.” The thing th<strong>at</strong> Jeff<br />

Bezos did th<strong>at</strong> I thought was very smart was th<strong>at</strong> he ran us through his organiz<strong>at</strong>ion<br />

and others through ours. He used us, <strong>at</strong> least for the first few years, as a<br />

think tank in some sense—a live and bre<strong>at</strong>hing example of how else they could<br />

do things.<br />

Alexa’s major value in the first year of its being acquired by Amazon was to<br />

take some of the lessons th<strong>at</strong> we had learned of how to do things much cheaper<br />

than they had. They had gone through an explosive growth phase, and they<br />

were spending $100 million a year on hardware. We couldn’t believe it. Here<br />

was this little company th<strong>at</strong> had been living its whole life, and we hadn’t spent<br />

$10 million.<br />

So Jeff said, “OK, Brewster, you know how to do this stuff cheaply. Wh<strong>at</strong><br />

should we do?” I said, “You should stop buying hardware. You’ve bought<br />

plenty.” He said, “OK, we’re going to stop buying hardware.” It caused enormous<br />

pain to their organiz<strong>at</strong>ion, but it was the right thing to do. They needed to<br />

become profitable. They learned a lot of lessons from this. They could use an<br />

outsider th<strong>at</strong> was still inside. We were not as independent as a Bain Consultants<br />

or something like th<strong>at</strong>, but we knew wh<strong>at</strong> we were talking about because we<br />

had actually built stuff. We dropped the cost of their Internet connections by<br />

90 percent just by saying th<strong>at</strong> you can go and negoti<strong>at</strong>e deals in this and this<br />

way. So we paid for the acquisition of our company in the first year just by the<br />

capital costs th<strong>at</strong> they saved.

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