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Mena Trott 415<br />

Trott: People do ask me th<strong>at</strong> all the time, and I have to step back and try to figure<br />

out why it is. I’m <strong>at</strong> a weird age group where I haven’t been in the industry<br />

for a long time and I haven’t seen it first hand, but then it’s like, “It can’t be a<br />

problem because I’m here.”<br />

If I’m forced to think about women who are in this field, I can’t usually. But<br />

I know there are. Many women are in marketing or design. I think marketing<br />

and design are a lot harder to learn than engineering. Th<strong>at</strong>’s my opinion. People<br />

put value judgments on engineering like, “There are more men; therefore, it<br />

must be a smarter field th<strong>at</strong> women should get into.” I don’t think th<strong>at</strong>’s the case<br />

<strong>at</strong> all. I say, look <strong>at</strong> women, they’re strong designers and strong <strong>at</strong> marketing and<br />

communic<strong>at</strong>ion. Th<strong>at</strong>’s a harder skill to acquire in life. Being able to write<br />

and being able to figure out wh<strong>at</strong> people want in their product, how to sell it<br />

to them.<br />

There aren’t th<strong>at</strong> many women in technology and maybe it doesn’t really<br />

m<strong>at</strong>ter. I mean, why aren’t there more men in design?<br />

Livingston: Looking back in your whole experience, wh<strong>at</strong> would you say is the<br />

most surprising thing?<br />

Trott: There’s the whole, “I can’t believe we have a company th<strong>at</strong> has 100 people.”<br />

The surprising thing is th<strong>at</strong> there’s going to be someone here now th<strong>at</strong> I don’t<br />

know personally. It’s not just to a point where I’m not good friends with them,<br />

like other employees; it’s like, “I don’t know this person’s name.” I feel badly,<br />

and I should know everyone’s name, but it’s hard.<br />

The good part of it is th<strong>at</strong> I don’t have to interview everybody. It’s not like a<br />

small company where, if I don’t interview this person, then they can’t get a job.<br />

So I’m very happy. We still have our staff meetings every Friday where everybody<br />

comes in, and we talk and introduce people. So we’re still a small company<br />

in th<strong>at</strong> sense.<br />

It’s surprising th<strong>at</strong> we’re still doing it after 4 years and th<strong>at</strong> I actually like this<br />

job. I never liked any of the jobs th<strong>at</strong> I had (even though I only had two). This<br />

is something th<strong>at</strong> I enjoy doing. I love work. Last night I thought about it<br />

because we just s<strong>at</strong> around all weekend w<strong>at</strong>ching TV, and for a little while I was<br />

like, “I don’t want to go to work tomorrow because I want to finish w<strong>at</strong>ching<br />

Lost” but then I thought, “I like work and I like coming in and talking to<br />

people.”<br />

I’ll be sad the day th<strong>at</strong> the company doesn’t exist in some form, but maybe<br />

th<strong>at</strong> will be longer. With Amazon, it’s been 10 years.<br />

Livingston: Is there anything th<strong>at</strong> your colleagues would describe as a<br />

Mena-ism?<br />

Trott: There’s the whole joke about me being self-absorbed. I believe I am, but<br />

in a way th<strong>at</strong> I’m very self-aware about, and it’s one of the ways th<strong>at</strong> I make fun<br />

of myself. So I say, “I can’t be th<strong>at</strong> self-absorbed because I’m most critical of<br />

myself.” The running joke <strong>at</strong> the company is th<strong>at</strong> I’m self-indulgent, but th<strong>at</strong>’s<br />

me. I’d say th<strong>at</strong> the worst part of me is all out there, so if you see me and I’m<br />

being snappish or egotistical, th<strong>at</strong>’s the worst it gets. It doesn’t get much deeper<br />

in terms of my bad things. I think less people know my good parts than my bad.

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