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Evan Williams 121<br />

Trellix licensed Blogger in order to add blogging to their fe<strong>at</strong>ure set. They did it<br />

in such a way—Dan drove it in such a way—th<strong>at</strong> if it was a traditional license<br />

(months of due diligence and really figuring out if we wanted this), it wouldn’t<br />

have helped and he knew th<strong>at</strong>. So, he was like, “a) there’s a legitim<strong>at</strong>e business<br />

reason to do this, but b) we are going to push this through so it is really good for<br />

you.” It wasn’t a lot of money—it was around $40,000—but with a contract l<strong>at</strong>er<br />

on th<strong>at</strong> ended up helping as well. But it was wh<strong>at</strong> we needed <strong>at</strong> the time.<br />

Livingston: So you were back in business?<br />

Williams: Sort of back in business, but both of those deals didn’t get me ahead.<br />

They bought me a few months, but between just keeping the service running<br />

and fulfilling on those deals, I didn’t have any other time. I wasn’t really making<br />

progress, because it was just me. First of all, I had to keep the service running,<br />

which was a really big deal in itself—we had several thousand users and I had to<br />

teach myself Linux system administr<strong>at</strong>ion and Java, so I could just keep the<br />

servers up and fix bugs here and there. Things would break, and I’d go in and<br />

fix them on the live site and figure it out as I went. Th<strong>at</strong> was very time consuming.<br />

The technology wasn’t rock solid by any means, and it kept growing and<br />

growing and I didn’t want to shut it off. Between th<strong>at</strong> and fulfilling on these<br />

deals, which were mostly giving stuff to other people, I wasn’t building in the<br />

real things th<strong>at</strong> were going to make a business. Th<strong>at</strong> was a lot of just day-to-day,<br />

by-the-skin-of-my-teeth stuff for several months. Still I had the idea to build a<br />

paid version of Blogger, but th<strong>at</strong> was going to take a lot more development and<br />

work to launch th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Then there is another part going on around this time th<strong>at</strong> I can’t talk too<br />

much about. Suffice it to say my former teamm<strong>at</strong>es didn’t all go away happy,<br />

and I spent almost as much money on my lawyer in 2001 as I paid myself.<br />

The other thing was th<strong>at</strong> all those people left, and then I was being badmouthed<br />

within this community of people we knew. The story apparently was<br />

th<strong>at</strong> I fired all my friends and I didn’t pay them and took over the company. It<br />

was really ugly, and of course we had all these mutual friends and there were<br />

parties we were <strong>at</strong>. I basically went underground and did nothing but try to<br />

keep Blogger going.<br />

Livingston: There was a whole social component to cofounding a startup with a<br />

friend.<br />

Williams: Which I think is a theme for startups in general because people live<br />

and bre<strong>at</strong>he them and become friends, d<strong>at</strong>e and merge their lives together. And<br />

then, if things go bad, it’s bad in ways th<strong>at</strong> are much more devast<strong>at</strong>ing than your<br />

work going badly.<br />

So th<strong>at</strong> was pretty much 2001. The funny thing about Pyra is th<strong>at</strong> every calendar<br />

year was pretty distinct—’99 was the first year, we were self-funded; 2000<br />

was the year we got money and ramped up; 2001 was the year th<strong>at</strong> it was just<br />

me and it sucked. But somehow by the end of 2001 I started rebuilding. We<br />

cleared up the legal thing, and things were looking up.

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