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James Currier 391<br />

Currier: You might have, but I wasn’t experienced enough <strong>at</strong> the time, since I<br />

had never done one of these before. I was 30 and I knew a lot about the industry<br />

and the technology, but I was very green on people. And th<strong>at</strong> is a painful way<br />

to start a company.<br />

I also hired a head of HR, and she was pregnant <strong>at</strong> the time but didn’t tell<br />

us. When I asked her to cre<strong>at</strong>e the m<strong>at</strong>ernity leave policy, she suggested 5 months<br />

with full pay. Since I was so busy, I said, “I want to trust you and empower you<br />

to do everything we need on this side, so if you think th<strong>at</strong>’s right, gre<strong>at</strong>.”<br />

So a few weeks l<strong>at</strong>er she told me she would be leaving soon for m<strong>at</strong>ernity<br />

leave. By th<strong>at</strong> time, several of us were off salary because we were running out of<br />

money, and here she was going home to spend 5 months <strong>at</strong> full pay, and we<br />

were practically out of money. Never having built a company, I didn’t know<br />

where I wanted the lines drawn. It was like a big, white piece of paper. And I<br />

got taken on th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Livingston: Was there ever a time when a competitor did something th<strong>at</strong> made<br />

you fearful?<br />

Currier: iVillage started copying us, and I was very worried about it for probably<br />

a year, and then it all just faded away. Probably because it’s hard to get the<br />

engineers, the psychologists, and the writers to talk to one another. You’ve got<br />

to build a culture and communic<strong>at</strong>ion amongst a small group of people so th<strong>at</strong><br />

they can get things done.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> was different about the way you motiv<strong>at</strong>ed them?<br />

Currier: My willingness to communic<strong>at</strong>e with people and my understanding of<br />

their need to form their brains and their language around their rel<strong>at</strong>ionships<br />

with each other and the product we needed to cre<strong>at</strong>e. I genuinely cared about<br />

my people, and I built a culture where you communic<strong>at</strong>e—you don’t blame—<br />

and you learn wh<strong>at</strong> the heck the other person’s talking about. You, psychologist,<br />

you need to learn a little about engineering. You, engineer, you need to learn a<br />

little about wh<strong>at</strong> the user actually experiences. You have to understand why<br />

they like the question this way so th<strong>at</strong> the writers can do their job. So it was really<br />

just a m<strong>at</strong>ter of emp<strong>at</strong>hy th<strong>at</strong> I had for the team, and communic<strong>at</strong>ion style.<br />

You have to figure out how to hire people who are nice, communic<strong>at</strong>ive,<br />

smart, and capable. If you’re missing one of those four things, you can’t stay.<br />

And so you have to churn people out and be willing to let them go. It was<br />

painful, but I knew from the beginning we were going to have to do th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> was most surprising to you about starting a startup?<br />

Currier: How painful it was. I woke up on October 3, 1999, <strong>at</strong> around 4 a.m.<br />

with my chest burning from fear and pain about not knowing wh<strong>at</strong> to do, and<br />

worrying th<strong>at</strong> I had taken my friends’ and mentors’ money. I had realized th<strong>at</strong><br />

wh<strong>at</strong> I was trying to do was not working, and th<strong>at</strong> I didn’t know how to fix it and<br />

I was in way over my head.<br />

Livingston: How did you keep going?

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