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Stephen Kaufer 375<br />

Kaufer: I couldn’t figure out wh<strong>at</strong> a receptionist would do. And executive assistants,<br />

we don’t have those either. So on the subject of hiring, I don’t look <strong>at</strong> a<br />

head count budget when I think of hiring people. I wait until I see the need for<br />

someone—when I can carve out a job description th<strong>at</strong>’s 80 percent full on the<br />

day someone starts—and th<strong>at</strong>’s when I’ll open up a new req.<br />

For receptionists and executive assistants, it’s something of a running joke<br />

because, well, wh<strong>at</strong> are they going to do? Make travel plans for us? We already<br />

know how to do th<strong>at</strong>. Answer the phones? Well, I can answer my own phone; it’s<br />

not too much of a bother. Schedule meetings? Well, we try not to have too<br />

many meetings to schedule. So if we were to hire one, I’m sure they would be<br />

busy all the time, but perhaps not doing anything th<strong>at</strong> really needed to be done<br />

<strong>at</strong> TripAdvisor. With engineering, there’s usually more development th<strong>at</strong> I want<br />

done, but I can look and say, “Am I willing to fund th<strong>at</strong> project?” With marketing,<br />

with customer acquisition, with accounting, I first look and say, “Hey,<br />

wh<strong>at</strong>’s taking people’s time? Wh<strong>at</strong> can we autom<strong>at</strong>e?” If I can’t autom<strong>at</strong>e it, do<br />

I really need it to be done? If I do need it to be done, all right, then we’ll open<br />

a req.<br />

We’re 70 people now, which is pretty small, given the revenues and profits<br />

th<strong>at</strong> we’re producing. Nobody in corpor<strong>at</strong>e would blink if I said, “Hey, I want to<br />

have 20 more people on board.” Our margins would still be terrific and I could<br />

afford it, but I’m not sure it would speed things up or slow things down.<br />

Livingston: It sounds like you’re really maintaining a good <strong>at</strong>mosphere, and<br />

one where innov<strong>at</strong>ion can happen r<strong>at</strong>her than just saying, “We’ve been bought.<br />

I’m leaving now. It’s 5 o’clock.”<br />

Kaufer: Chapter one is starting up the company, getting anyone interested in<br />

wh<strong>at</strong> we do. Chapter two was hitting th<strong>at</strong> profitability mark so we could break<br />

even. Chapter three is growing, and if it so happens, as it did with us, a gre<strong>at</strong> liquidity<br />

event. Chapter four is, “OK, are you done with the business? Do you<br />

already have a commanding number one market share and no competitors?”<br />

Well, th<strong>at</strong>’s pretty rare. Certainly it isn’t true for us. We may be ahead of our<br />

competitors, or tied with our competitors, but how close am I to being the<br />

number one travel site in the world? Well, I’m pretty far away from th<strong>at</strong>. I have<br />

some sister companies th<strong>at</strong> have th<strong>at</strong> spot. But I look <strong>at</strong> it and say, “Why<br />

wouldn’t everyone want to start on TripAdvisor when planning a trip?” So if I<br />

have 20 million uniques a month now, why don’t I have 50 million? My definition<br />

of chapter four is being the most popular travel site in the world.

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