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Ron Gruner 445<br />

Because de Castro was a hardware engineer like I was, I would view him as<br />

my primary mentor during those years. During the ’80s, like I said, we had a<br />

good board of directors. Tom Perkins played a very key role. I think I absorbed<br />

a lot of the wisdom from him by osmosis—just in board meetings, and how he<br />

conducted himself. How he did a good job, I thought, of managing conflict and<br />

disagreements. I have to say I’m surprised, though, by how public he’s let the<br />

internal HP board b<strong>at</strong>tle become. Seems to me th<strong>at</strong> it’s been very costly to HP.<br />

Livingston: Was there ever a time <strong>at</strong> Shareholder.com when you wanted to<br />

quit?<br />

Gruner: No, not really. I really enjoyed most every day. I enjoyed driving into<br />

work, looked forward to it. Every company has its pros and cons. The nice<br />

aspect of Shareholder.com was th<strong>at</strong> it was indeed a recurring revenue stream.<br />

So we had almost no financial worries. We could predict our quarterly revenues<br />

within a couple of percent the first day of the quarter.<br />

The worries th<strong>at</strong> we had came from the fact th<strong>at</strong> we were basically in the<br />

news business. When earnings season came out, we might be doing 50 earnings<br />

calls and webcasts and news releases on the same day. Every one had to be<br />

done on time and perfectly, because an earnings release, for all intents and purposes,<br />

is a legal document. So where we swe<strong>at</strong>ed was just managing th<strong>at</strong><br />

process. It’s like running 50 television st<strong>at</strong>ions <strong>at</strong> the same time.<br />

If you screwed up, it was very visible. On rare occasions we did. We might<br />

get one webcast mixed up with another company. We’d fix it within 3 or 4 minutes,<br />

but it’s extremely embarrassing. And, believe me, chief executives don’t<br />

like th<strong>at</strong> <strong>at</strong> all.<br />

I’d be the one to call up and apologize, and th<strong>at</strong> was just part of the job.<br />

Most people were very reasonable, and they would understand—things go<br />

wrong. I would use the analogy of a cell phone (th<strong>at</strong> was when cell phones were<br />

really getting hot). I’d say, “Look, we’ve all got cell phones or car phones.<br />

Sometimes they just screw up and they go wrong. And this is the same kind of<br />

stuff; this is pretty advanced technology and sometimes things go wrong.”<br />

But we did occasionally lose a client th<strong>at</strong> was just irr<strong>at</strong>ional, saying, “My<br />

boss told me to fire you because you made this mistake.” We’d typically give<br />

them a credit for the whole thing, and we’d say, “If you ever want to come back,<br />

we’d love to have you back.” And many did.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> advice would you give to someone who had never started a<br />

startup but was thinking about it?<br />

Gruner: I went to an executive conference several years ago in New York. One<br />

of the most interesting sessions had about six chief executives, all of whom were<br />

very successful, and the moder<strong>at</strong>or asked, “If you could describe in one word<br />

the key to success for your company, wh<strong>at</strong> would th<strong>at</strong> word be?” Very few<br />

answered in one word. Some of them said integrity, or communic<strong>at</strong>ions, and<br />

things like th<strong>at</strong>. The last person to talk was Michael Dell, and he said one<br />

simple word: persistence.

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