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Sabeer Bh<strong>at</strong>ia 27<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: Once you’ve got a lead in terms of a subscriber base, th<strong>at</strong> is unassailable.<br />

It can’t be replic<strong>at</strong>ed easily. So I knew even if they started developing the<br />

product—I have no doubt in my mind th<strong>at</strong> they could have developed it, so<br />

many engineers and smart people in Microsoft. At th<strong>at</strong> time they had something<br />

like 16,000 engineers, and I had a total of 60 people in the company, only<br />

14 engineers, so it would have been easy to pick 15 guys from 16,000 and build<br />

this product. But I knew we had th<strong>at</strong> momentum behind us and th<strong>at</strong> is very<br />

hard to replic<strong>at</strong>e.<br />

Livingston: You arrived in this country with only $250 in your pocket. Wasn’t it<br />

tempting for you to agree to sell for, say, $300 million?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: Once you have tasted this kind of success, once you’ve tasted th<strong>at</strong> it<br />

works, th<strong>at</strong> you’ve got subscribers who are telling you it’s good, you know you<br />

are going to get there. In fact, th<strong>at</strong>’s exactly wh<strong>at</strong>’s happened. Th<strong>at</strong> 6-month<br />

lead th<strong>at</strong> we had already over any of our competitors today has transl<strong>at</strong>ed into<br />

about a 50 to 100 million–user lead.<br />

Seeing how they did a lousy job of providing email to their 2.5 million subscribers,<br />

I also knew th<strong>at</strong> they didn’t have the technology in house. Because if<br />

they did, they wouldn’t have been asking to license this from us. If we had gone<br />

the licensing route, I think we would have been as big as Google. Because th<strong>at</strong>’s<br />

wh<strong>at</strong> Google did, right? Initially, they said, “We’ve got search. Why don’t we<br />

license search to everyone else?” Th<strong>at</strong> was their original business model. They<br />

licensed it to Yahoo, Microsoft, and AOL and grew big based on their subscribers.<br />

Livingston: Do you wish you had gone the licensing route?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: No, it would have been a lot more difficult, because the cost of providing<br />

email was much higher than the cost of providing search—even though<br />

search is far more profitable than email in terms of the advertising monetizability<br />

of search. Because when somebody searches, they are looking to find something;<br />

they are in the mood to click. Email is more of a destin<strong>at</strong>ion. When you<br />

are doing email, you don’t want to be disturbed by wh<strong>at</strong>’s on the right, you want<br />

to read wh<strong>at</strong>ever your friend has written to you. So it’s the end product. It not a<br />

click-through kind of a product. So I don’t know where we would have ended<br />

up had we done th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Livingston: Looking back on your experience with Hotmail, wh<strong>at</strong> surprised you<br />

most?<br />

Bh<strong>at</strong>ia: I think I knew th<strong>at</strong> Hotmail was going to become successful one day. I<br />

was just shocked th<strong>at</strong> all of th<strong>at</strong> happened in a span of 20 months from start to<br />

finish. Those kinds of things don’t happen very often; from the time you start to<br />

the time you see an exit in less than 2 years. Th<strong>at</strong>’s wh<strong>at</strong> shocked me. And I have<br />

not been able to replic<strong>at</strong>e th<strong>at</strong> kind of meteoric growth and success yet.<br />

I was lucky also; I was <strong>at</strong> the right place <strong>at</strong> the right time. I have been thinking<br />

about new ideas and new companies in the last 5 years and have been working<br />

on some really exciting things. But I don’t think th<strong>at</strong> any one of these will<br />

become successful in th<strong>at</strong> short a period of time.

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