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202 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

More recently, TiVo has done deals with Comcast. It’s renewed its deal with<br />

DIRECTV, so it’s moving in this direction of taking its technology and embedding<br />

into those third-party pl<strong>at</strong>forms. I think th<strong>at</strong> is going to be a trend for the<br />

future.<br />

Livingston: Do you think if the networks had realized wh<strong>at</strong> you were doing<br />

early on th<strong>at</strong> they would have tried to do something about you guys?<br />

Ramsay: Oh, they did. Th<strong>at</strong>’s a whole other story in its own right. Very early on,<br />

this notion of digital recording got the <strong>at</strong>tention of the networks, and it was<br />

clear th<strong>at</strong> they were concerned about wh<strong>at</strong> we were doing.<br />

About the same time, we had built a prototype—it was a little thing based<br />

on a PC, a little box with a handle—and we’d take it around to show it to<br />

people. We had hired a guy called Stacey Jolna, who was from the media industry.<br />

He would take me around all these places to meet his contacts and sort of<br />

try to convince them th<strong>at</strong> we weren’t really a thre<strong>at</strong>—th<strong>at</strong> we were an advantage<br />

and there were some advertising opportunities and audience measurements<br />

things and all th<strong>at</strong> kind of stuff. After the st<strong>at</strong>utory hugging and talking about<br />

their kids and their families and wh<strong>at</strong> they’ve been doing, it was not unusual for<br />

them to let us know how they felt about wh<strong>at</strong> we were doing and show us the<br />

door. “You’re evil. Don’t come back. You’re going to destroy us.”<br />

We’d see quotes in the newspaper about how we were going to destroy<br />

the US economy. People were becoming very irr<strong>at</strong>ional. We got thre<strong>at</strong>s of<br />

lawsuits—all the time, every week. And we had people on our board from NBC<br />

and Discovery and all sorts of other media companies.<br />

Replay probably did us a fabulous favor when they stepped across the line.<br />

There’s a line in the sand th<strong>at</strong> those media companies think about. You don’t<br />

know where it is, but if you step over it, they’re going to get you. Replay<br />

stepped over it by doing autom<strong>at</strong>ic commercial skipping. You didn’t even have<br />

to fast-forward through the commercials. They just found out where they were<br />

and they elimin<strong>at</strong>ed them. And they let you share programs over the Internet.<br />

Th<strong>at</strong> crossed the line. They got sued. They were the bad guy; therefore, we<br />

were the good guy.<br />

At the end of the day, actually, I think we got a lot of respect from those<br />

companies, but it was a difficult time and these are powerful companies th<strong>at</strong><br />

were hell-bent on getting rid of us. To this day, it amazes me th<strong>at</strong> those<br />

companies eventually decided to invest in TiVo, actually put money into the<br />

company, and probably made the difference between TiVo surviving and not<br />

surviving when the Bubble burst. Th<strong>at</strong> difference was <strong>at</strong>tributed to Disney,<br />

Viacom, Discovery Communic<strong>at</strong>ions, NBC, Showtime, HBO, and Time<br />

Warner. They all put money into the company. They put one represent<strong>at</strong>ive on<br />

the board—NBC has always had a represent<strong>at</strong>ive, John Hendricks from<br />

Discovery was the represent<strong>at</strong>ive for a lot of the others. There was something<br />

like $50 million th<strong>at</strong> we raised from th<strong>at</strong> group of people, and th<strong>at</strong> got us by.<br />

Livingston: Do you think they thought, “If we can’t be<strong>at</strong> ’em, join ’em”?

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